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linsomniac1 day ago
I recently was listening to a 99 Percent Invisible podcast: Citizen of the World https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/665-citizen-of-the-wo...

It's about a guy who has been fighting for ~50 years to be able to be a citizen of no country. I left that episode thinking "This is the hero we need right now."

He has set up the World Citizen Government https://worldcitizengov.org/

arrowsmith1 day ago
MisterTea1 day ago
Groxxabout 21 hours ago
Surprisingly, none with crabs on them.

Carcinization will fix that eventually. And then Roko's Crabulisk will hunt down everyone who didn't vote for the crab flag.

Walfabout 20 hours ago
Anteaters will be more likely, apparently.

https://phys.org/news/2025-07-mammals-evolved-ant-eaters-din...

Groxxabout 17 hours ago
Huh. Interesting.

Well, there are quite a lot of ants in the world, so I guess it makes sense.

caseyohara1 day ago
I quite like the James W. Cadle one from 1970.
masfuerteabout 24 hours ago
Yes. It has the simplicity of a traditional flag but recognisably represents the earth. The 2016 one (which this thread is about) is too similar to the Japanese flag. Or the Blaupunkt logo.
layer81 day ago
…which also lists this thread’s flag, that apparently is from 2016.
adzm2 days ago
Transparency in a flag is new to me. It's surprisingly effective here. Could this be done with just cloth without synthetics by using thinner threads or thread count?
fiatpandas1 day ago
I also love the transparency and am surprised it hasn’t been used more. Granted, it would be very difficult to achieve with natural materials and also be durable. A flag should be able to withstand an ocean voyage exposed to the elements.
rob741 day ago
I think you pointed out very well why it hasn't been used more: lack of durability. Either it has to be some kind of plastic foil, in which case it has to be thin enough to fly in the wind the same way as a traditional flag does, so it will degrade very quickly when exposed to the elements. Or the silk organza suggested on the page, but if it's thin enough to be (almost) transparent I'm not convinced that it would fare much better.

So, nice idea, but completely impractical, which makes it a gimmick.

lloeki1 day ago
I feel what makes it work well here is also that it's not perfectly transparent so you can still see it wave in the wind and make out it's rectangular shape.

I'd definitely take that into consideration for a digital version.

anaumann1 day ago
>> I'd definitely take that into consideration for a digital version.

Finally, an application for Apple‘s Liquid Glass UI

lloeki1 day ago
Well given there's no abuse of refractive light bending it looks more like whatever frosted glass existed before liquid glass.

Also this flag has square corners.

hsbauauvhabzb1 day ago
Seems unfair to associate anything good with that abomination.
alm4x2 days ago
The website mentions silk organza at https://1worldflag.com/flag/. That's where my mind went initially, some kind of sheer silk fabric. I don't know how durable it would be in the elements though.
nextaccountic1 day ago
That would be the first flag that isn't vegan, which.. doesn't look very cool
benj1111 day ago
I'm sure there have been plenty of flags that haven't been vegan.
bux931 day ago
Not great for t-shirts
account42about 11 hours ago
On the contrary, T-shirts of it will be very effective at calling attention to the flag.
invalidusernam31 day ago
It's a novel and fun idea! I also wonder how it would be represented correctly as a digital image, could be as an actual png or maybe the white/grey checker pattern from PhotoShop? Realistically probably just with a white background
miesesabout 16 hours ago
glitter and foil will blow you away
kelseyfrog2 days ago
The microplastics inherent in synthetics is the point.
BSDobelix1 day ago
Good one ;) and a flag should never be wet, so cover it in Teflon.
butlike1 day ago
It should be a white flag. All the colors, and the fact we embraced it as a flag of unity over a flag of surrender should say all there is to say about us getting over our differences.

Edit: From Wikipedia: (A white flag) serves as an internationally recognized sign of truce and negotiation, meaning "we want to talk". It emerged as an ideal symbol for peace because it is highly visible on the battlefield, is easy to make, and doesn't belong to any specific nation.

savoyardabout 21 hours ago
> It should be a white flag.

And it will be.

xdennisabout 22 hours ago
A white flag used to be the flag of France: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_France_(1814...

A world flag should not use flags which were associated with a country. Evan this proposal is too derivative of the Japanese flag.

ASalazarMXabout 3 hours ago
The Japanese flag references the Sun, and it's hard to aim for astrological minimalism and not look similar. Still, the transparent background is a bad idea IMO, because a spaceship/space station with painted flags will look very funny.

Nevertheless, I think the Earth flag should include the moon too. A blue Earth, a white Moon, and a black background. When the Moon secession war starts, the laser holes in the flag could double as the starry sky.

hdjrudniabout 21 hours ago
I love that they published the SVG. It's invisible.
g_delgado141 day ago
White flags are commonly associated with defeat in battle. Probably not the vibe one wants.
mplanchard1 day ago
from the post you replied to:

> and the fact we embraced it as a flag of unity over a flag of surrender should say all there is to say about us getting over our differences

insane_dreamer1 day ago
hard to change an association that has been around for millennia (literally)
mc32about 21 hours ago
Especially if this represents the Earth in the face of aliens on other planets and they happen to know the flag of surrender... It would definitely give them the wrong impression about Earth.
hotep991 day ago
Will be useful for the inevitable war against the offworld colonies.
BSDobelix1 day ago
I just hope that Mars is not adapting the Japanese flag...pretty bad for colorblind soldiers ;)
skullone1 day ago
The Mars colonies would never choose independence!
vintagedave1 day ago
I appreciate the ethos of unity, but in a sense it scares me were this ever to be political unity -- because I don't trust it would remain (or even ever be) democratic and free.

We see so many examples of power hurting citizens in existing nations. The risk if the entire world had one political unity, of losing freedom, is extreme.

With multiple nations and blocs, at least some remain showing an example of what can exist in the others.

pelagicAustral1 day ago
The only way we'll going to achieve anything remotely akin to World Unity™ is as some form of dystopic Warhammer 40K future. You try putting even 5 people in a root have them reach consensus on anything.
trashb1 day ago
I like the idea to have a symbol to unite the world under one flag.

The blue dot seems to make sense as it represents the world without focusing on one perspective or projection of the world map. The transparent background also makes sense for the flag, but I think it would be more recognizable if it was just a white background (in my mind the default flag background).

Also it seems to me transparent materials are in general more polluting. On the website it mentions a black background was considered (I suppose representing space). It would be nice if there was an alternative version chosen without the transparency for mediums where transparency is not an option either black or white would suffice imho.

As others mentioned it does seem very similar (same proportions) as the Japanese flag. I wonder what the opinion of the Japanese is on this concept.

Theodores1 day ago
Note that blue was an expensive colour until recent times. Painters would use it sparingly.

Nowadays blue is easy and common in flags, and much else, so this flag design is high tech.

nogajunabout 13 hours ago
That’s really interesting.

Currently, Japan’s ruling party, the LDP, is considering legislation to criminalize the desecration of the Japan flag. If that law is passed, carrying that flag would constitute a crime of desecrating the Japan flag. Even without such a law, simply carrying that flag would likely prompt the far right to view it as an alteration of the Japan flag and attack you for it.

- LDP pushes flag desecration law; expert questions its necessity | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16506155

karol1 day ago
I would live to see the transparency around the funding and goals of this project.
nakedneuron1 day ago
Lacking transparency is a red flag.
prox1 day ago
Nothing a good conversation to PNG can’t fix
butlike1 day ago
That's deeply funny since the Japanese flag is opaque white and red
pelagicAustral1 day ago
Thank you for flagging this issue.
layer81 day ago
The Land of the Rising Sea.
et13372 days ago
Can’t wait for CGP Grey’s review of this flag
monkeywork1 day ago
is he still making content it feels like its been forever since ive heard anything about him
annzabelleabout 19 hours ago
He's been radio silent for 9+ months. No videos, no podcasts.

People have been speculating on his reddit subs, but honestly anything from early retirement, to stay at home dad, to sabbatical, to serious illness is completely possible. The parasociality of everything has probably gotten old over time, too.

mcmoorabout 20 hours ago
Seems like his work now is just keep changing thumbnails of his old videos to bait me into rewatching it.
aquariusDue1 day ago
He's got a regular monthly podcast called Codex if you're into that format too.
jrflo1 day ago
He hasn't been on cortex for over a year
RugnirViking1 day ago
*cortex
latexr1 day ago
Like so many other creators, seems like Grey’s main focus might now be on podcasts. Easier to produce and monetise.
boxed1 day ago
That's what we always say between videos :P
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rrgok2 days ago
I don't like the color blue. Can we change it?
water-data-dude2 days ago
Humanity's working on it, lol
hermitcrab1 day ago
Someone made a flag to express unity and we've just all come here to argue about it. How very human.
BSDobelix1 day ago
Are not ~all flags made to express unity?

However that one looks better: https://www.flagofplanetearth.com/

Fight me :)

butlike1 day ago
What are these marketing sites advertising the Earth flag? Who's buying?!
BSDobelixabout 13 hours ago
Ford Prefect as a Souvenir?
jslakro1 day ago
I wouldn't trust any flag with a hexiform shape. I mean, hexagons can be found in the wild but one perfect circle reflects better our human nature
hermitcrab1 day ago
>Are not ~all flags made to express unity?

Usually the unity of some humans against other humns.

spondyl1 day ago
I can't help but be distracted by the 26MB flag video that my fibre connection is only able to download at 150 KB/sec here in New Zealand?
onionyabout 15 hours ago
It's totally worth the wait.
somerandom2407about 17 hours ago
I don't like it and I wasn't consulted about it. Given it is supposed to be representative of a united humanity or something like that, I'd be interested to know what proportion of the 8 billion people were consulted in its creation.
lanyard-textile2 days ago
Love the idea.

But the transparency :( It makes the whole flag low contrast, an undesirable quality in flags.

rolymath2 days ago
Judging by the comments here, the 1worldflag should have been a picture of two people arguing.
grebc2 days ago
Yes! Classic.

We don’t have an outside enemy atm so we squabble amongst ourselves, it’s a pattern as old as humans have gathered into groups.

hgoelabout 23 hours ago
Probably more fitting as the flag of HN
xgkickt2 days ago
Blue needs to be paler, and the dot smaller ;-)
dylan6042 days ago
I was disappointed it wasn't a pale blue dot as well.
ant6n1 day ago
Yeah, it’s more like a saturated blue giant circle.
simondotau1 day ago
Like all flags, this will come to represent those who choose to fly it, and the causes they fly it for. Which then makes them symbols of the ideas opposed by people who think flag waving is cringe.
stevenalowe1 day ago
How about a pale blue dot on a black background
Leptonmaniac2 days ago
So this is effectively the Esperanto of flags?
jszymborski2 days ago
layer81 day ago
He asked about the Esperanto of flags, not about the flags of Esperanto.
jszymborski1 day ago
Wouldn't the Esperanto of Flags be the flag of Esperanto?
TwoFerMaggie1 day ago
I suppose a lot of flags are esperanto of flags...
hackernulls2 days ago
Yep, that no one uses too.
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nmeofthestateabout 20 hours ago
The apotheosis of Reddit vexillology where all flag symbolism maps to geographical features.
melonpan7about 23 hours ago
I love the initiative, I understand the transparency, although it doesn't really look that great imo.
seirim1 day ago
Try to add a favicon for the website if you can guys, a blue dot would work well here.
Skidaddle1 day ago
Very cool, hard to beat the Earthican flag though

https://theinfosphere.org/images/1/17/Earth_Flag.svg

slekker1 day ago
Did you miss an "/s"? That's horrendous!
Skidaddle1 day ago
Yes it’s from Futurama
fc417fc8021 day ago
Not at all - it's clearly intended as a threat. /s
flybrandabout 22 hours ago
How would we represent this as a sticker on a vehicle?

White outline around the clear field w blue dot?

nickandbro1 day ago
This will be needed for the galactic civil wars that will soon take place.
pixlmint1 day ago
Holy typo… does the one world not have proofreaders?
amarant1 day ago
Nope! They were sent off along with other useful professionals such as telephone cleaners on a big space ship!
clickety_clackabout 10 hours ago
Global government sounds terrible. Most people don’t live in western liberal democracies, so I assume a world government would be something other than that. I have no interest in living under a government that promises the average political, religious, personal and economic environment of the world.
mattvr1 day ago
Is there information on the license of this flag? Not how/if clear you can reproduce it legally.
amai1 day ago
Will we put this flag on the moon?
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dwoldrich1 day ago
Modern invented flag peddlers only seek to have us fly flags of the division they seek to generate. I only fly the flag of the country I live in and give side eye to anyone that does otherwise.
scared_togetherabout 24 hours ago
Is this a trend? Do you have any other examples? And what division would a world flag generate??
pessimizerabout 24 hours ago
> And what division would a world flag generate?

It's just a way of saying that you're too good for your neighbors. That's why it would appeal to liberals and libertarians alike.

ARandomerDude1 day ago
What if we took Japan’s flag, imagined it printed on paper, but made the dot blue?
pixel_popping1 day ago
It should be a different color, because this will be attached to either politics (which you don't want) or EU (which you also don't want), some completely independent color could actually trigger curiosity to look it up.
scratcheee1 day ago
Disagree, though you’re right it’s a little bit similar to the eu flag, but only a little, plenty of countries manage with more similar flags.

Flags don’t exist for the period where they’re gaining recognition. Compromising the significance of the iconography for the temporary gain of not being misidentified during the period it isn’t recognisable would just mean if it gains recognition it will forever be less than it could be.

In other words, with flags you need to play to win, not to survive. Better that the attempt have a higher risk of failure with a great flag than a lower risk with a mediocre flag.

The pale blue dot is an excellent way to represent a global outlook and “we’re all in it together”, not sure I can think of a better pedigree for this concept. I’d perhaps have been tempted to make it a smaller blue dot, but flags do need to be recognised at a distance, so it can’t be too much smaller.

its-summertime1 day ago
I believe its a reference to the planet being a pale blue dot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot

patates1 day ago
I like the direction of unity but this will probably be problematic when we eventually start to colonize other planets. I don't want our first settlers to feel discriminated, so please kindly make a new version with more universality - now that I think about it, Universal Pictures also has the world in their logo so maybe this IS universal but we probably we need Jim and Hannah in the loop as well so they can chime in, and last but not least, we need a review from the legal so I CC'd to all, expect some new ideas/requirements.

Also, can we please make it "pop"?

ps. Attaching a version I made, and this took a lot of back and forth with chatgpt because I care about this a lot, so please have a look, I think we are close to something great here!

Looking forward to seeing more from you!

ps2. when I was about to send our manufacturing guy entered the room and he said the transparency could be a problem. Some alternatives without compromising the idea would be great! They must be cheap but elegant! Thank you!!

reconnecting1 day ago
> we eventually start to colonize other planets.

Could you please clarify which ones? I'm planning my escape, but it seems that even lightspeed wouldn't be enough to colonize anything suitable.

boxed1 day ago
Eh? If you go at light speed you can literally go everywhere in the universe subjectively instantly due to time dilation.
reconnecting1 day ago
> If you go at light speed

I will certainly not. And even if I did — within any reachable radius there's nothing actually suitable, everything is 10+ ly away, but maybe I missed something.

soupspacesabout 23 hours ago
"govvie bad so we make giga govment, then no bad"

Instead of cool cool water make it an income distribution chart. More realistic.

s20n2 days ago
but that's the wrong shade of blue? It'd have been great if they took the colour from "The blue marble" instead of this Turbo Pascal blue.
moss_dog2 days ago
What do you mean by "wrong"?

I reckon the actual color doesn't matter as long as it's blue-ish. There are no branding guidelines or anything. Even the size of the circle is unspecified, which IMO is a feature, not a bug. It's accessible :)

EDIT: I'm incorrect, there is a spec. Whelp! I still like my imagined more-flexible version of the flag.

dheera1 day ago
It is the 16-color VGA version of blue, not the version of blue you'd pick if you had a 24-bit color display.

This website reminds me of the early 90s internet because of the specific shade of blue they picked.

dylan6042 days ago
Maybe they couldn't find American Flag Blue??? Or is that reserved for swimming pools now?
miesesabout 16 hours ago
The Empire of the Rising Blue Ink Dot (of the unelected EU bureaucracy).
onionyabout 15 hours ago
If you're going to change my mouse pointer into a circle can you at least make the activation point the centre of the circle?
ChiperSoft1 day ago
Nothing says "I care about the earth" like a giant sheet of plastic.
glerk1 day ago
I like this. And furthermore, it is my opinion that all current nation states should be dismantled.
halapro1 day ago
I wish so too, but clearly this is not in any way practical. The EU is the closest thing we got to "fewer borders"
glerk1 day ago
We can always dream and then find ways to make it practical :)

It's encouraging I didn't get downvoted as much as I expected I would.

yanhangyhy1 day ago
if cannot merge into 1, at least we can make it a few. 200+ is a waste of resources on so many levels.. so many countries really don't need to exist and have shitty a government...
legostormtroopr1 day ago
And replaced with what?
BSDobelix1 day ago
Have you read the utopian book "Starship Troopers" from Heinlein ;)
elictronic1 day ago
It had a real Mary Poppins feel when interacting with the skinnies.
glerk1 day ago
That can be figured out after the dismantling process :)

My personal utopian take: smaller communities/city-states that would naturally coalesce into more fluid confederations. A lot of these communities could also be distributed and non-local.

Towaway691 day ago
Money.
altmanaltman1 day ago
good opinion and one that most agree with

what most don't agree with: what happens next?

yanhangyhy1 day ago
civil war?
Auracle1 day ago
It’s a nice goal, but no thank you. In my opinion, more of the world needs to be all but quarantined.
SuddsMcDuff1 day ago
I expect there are many people who agree with this sentiment, unfortunately they might not agree on precisely which areas ought to be quarantined. And those who happen to live in the areas you want to quarantine might disagree most vigorously.
Auracleabout 18 hours ago
It sounds like we just need something like..national borders, eh ;)
BSDobelix1 day ago
>all current nation states should be dismantled.

Fun fact. Just people who live in a shitty country want that, maybe instead of change everyone else, change you own country?

glerk1 day ago
I've lived in several different countries. There are nice people everywhere. The country governments are shitty everywhere.
BSDobelix1 day ago
Funny i live in a country where the people are the government, and with your knowledge of different country's, the future World-Government would not just be shitty but untouchable mighty. I want really small, face to face responsible governments.
yuppiepuppie1 day ago
> The country governments are shitty everywhere.

Compared to what?

0xDEAFBEAD1 day ago
Why would a world government be any better?
dostick1 day ago
I am from so called 1st world, how do you define “shitty country”, are there better ones?
BSDobelix1 day ago
Yes and it's really easy.

Are the vast majority happy? = Good one

If not = Shitty

Example? Norway[1] = good, Sudan[2] = really..really shitty

[1] https://www.bi.no/en/research/business-review/articles/2025/...

[2] https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2025/sudan-voices/

To be honest, those two are so far apart it's not even comparable.

9dev1 day ago
German here, I want the same. We are one species inhabiting a single habitable world in a giant dead void. Nationalism is an idiotic game of no value that causes destruction of resources we need, senseless killing in wars over nothing, and ultimately merely a distraction from everything that’s really important.
BSDobelix1 day ago
Nothing against a Coordinating body like the UN, and really small states (lets call them community's).

But there is no "we are the world, we are the children", future is probably more like US/EU/EAU (east asia union), now you have 3 big blocks fighting against each other (much higher world-ending chance). More power = more bully....

>everything that’s really important.

Yes your right, and talking...even with a enemy should be considered the base for future world-freedom.

rlpb1 day ago
The paradox of tolerance applies though. It helps to keep the intolerants at bay.
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tamimio1 day ago
That grade of blue is more like Neptune than earth, or blue giant.
suddenlybananas1 day ago
Looks like something out of 1997.
alexb_about 10 hours ago
As someone living in Omaha, this has just a little bit of a conflict lmao.....
visha1v1 day ago
the most european thing i’ve seen today
mock-possum1 day ago
Looks too much like japan’s flag.

Let’s try an earth and a sunrise behind it - half a circle sitting on the bottom of the rectangle, and a yellow circle making a sunrise on top of that, like a yolk sitting on a blue egg.

metalman1 day ago
ALL flags(standards/banners) are war symbols, declarations of intent to attack and of terrtory held by conquest, tribes,nations, and franchises alike. Any attemp to float the idea of a world flag is a (hidden attempt) of a declaration of total war on all countrys simultaneously, which unfortunatly is too ridiculous to even get points on style. Fashists always have some sort of fashion kink branding thing plus a cult of personality to get things going, but this one needs WAY too much explaining.
ball_of_lint1 day ago
This is simply not true.

Pride flags.

Edit: Also the Esperanto Flag.

NordStreamYacht2 days ago
Esperanto flag.