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vvidluther 2 days ago 261 comments
https://pardonned.com

Inspired by the videos of Liz Oyer, I wanted to be able to verify her claims and just look up all the pardons more easily.

Tech Stack: Playwright - to sccrape the DOJ website SQLite - local database Astro 6 - Build out a static website from the sqlite db

All code is open source and available on Github.

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varenc1 day ago
Extracted all the raw pardons here: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/varenc/cb2e2dacf1c92d36bc...

I wanted to do some stuff with this data so need a raw format.

(process was so easy since its included on a single page load, so I assume you don't mind! thanks for making this )

vidluther1 day ago
I'm exposing the database that I use to build the site now as well.

https://pardonned.com/pardonned.db

vidluther1 day ago
I'm thinking of exposing the sqlite db, and now possibly this JSON file as well.. I can take both during the build process and throw them up on CF. Great idea, thank you.
euabout 22 hours ago
consider http://datasette.io/ as well
koolba2 days ago
Are there any longer or more generic than this:

> For any nonviolent offenses against the United States which they may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1 2014 through the date of this pardon (JAN 19, 2025).

https://pardonned.com/pardon/details/biden-family/

That’s 11+ years with no detail or description.

ceejayoz2 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4311-...

> Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

Not quite as long, but much more significant. (No violence exception, the criminal was the President, and they were crimes against the entire country, not some random drug/tax charges.)

gcanyon2 days ago
Ford did real damage that day.
Pikamander22 days ago
The real embarrassment is how little effort there's been to limit/reform the pardon system since then.

Pardons have valid uses, but it's wild that a single person can unilaterally pardon donators, family members, former presidents, etc, without needing so much as a simple majority confirmation vote in the House or Senate.

The questionable pardons that we've seen over the last few years (and the Nixon pardon) are just the tip of iceberg in terms of how badly they could be abused.

I'd imagine it won't be long until we see a president issue a preemptive pardon to themself at the end of their term, because there's nothing in the constitution that says they can't.

Thorrezabout 14 hours ago
Interestingly, Ford received a Kennedy Award for pardoning Nixon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/22/us/ford-wins-kennedy-awar...

vidluther2 days ago
So this was the first time (i think) anyone got a preemptive pardon, the actual warrant on the DOJ website says what it says.. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1385756/dl?inline

Will have to crunch through the offenses in the db and see if anything else like this shows up.

lelandfe2 days ago
Preemptive meaning they hadn't yet been convicted. Nixon was pardoned by Ford in this manner (for "all offenses against the United States" between Jan. 20, 1969—Aug. 9, 1974). Carter preemptively mass-pardoned draft dodgers, etc.
vidluther2 days ago
I did not know that. Thanks for the lesson.
throwaway858251 day ago
That's when I learned you can be pardoned for future crime since the expiration was end of day. There's nothing stopping a president from signing blanket future pardons with a 100 year expiry. I'm amazed there wasnt any discussion when it happened.
laidoffamazon1 day ago
Correct, as he should have
whoiskevin2 days ago
Look at what the Trump administration has done with the DOJ pursuing unwarranted indictments against anyone Trump doesn't like. All getting thrown out so far. And you lead with questioning why one of his constant targets would pardon his family? The bigger question is why this isn't more outrage at the GOP attempts to find something on Biden or Clinton. They have been wasting tax dollars while Coomer "investigates" for something that he has never been able to prove. I'd have pardoned everyone around me given that constant sustained and terrible attack. All the while the Trump grift machine continues without so much as a blink.
kupadapuku2 days ago
Love this idea - if I were to extend it, I'd add some kind of analysis breaking down the % composition of pardons (fraud vs drug offences vs financial crime) by President to see if there's some common trend. I was a little surprised to see the Obama number quite so high, until it became apparent that the vast majority were drug offenders being pardoned
justin662 days ago
The Obama number is also high because the designer combined Obama's first and second terms into one figure, unlike what he did with the other presidents who served two terms.
vidluther2 days ago
Hmm, I see the issue.. The DOJ website lists all of Obama's as once, so I need to modify the parser.. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-bar...

Compare that to the other list. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-recipients

darknavi2 days ago
That's probably intentional on the DOJ's part at this point.
hk13372 days ago
Even so, it’s still higher than the other presidents listed
vidluther2 days ago
A bunch of mass commutations have occurred under Obama, Biden, and most recently under Trump, I'm working on a comparison tool, so we can visualize the change in number of pardons by president, further breakdown of composition is an interesting idea as well.
GorbachevyChase2 days ago
A more interesting analysis to me would not be the number pardoned, but rather the monetary value of correlated donations or direct financial interests. Pardons are one of the many services for sale, it seems.
vunderba2 days ago
Agreed. I often compare the way the current administration is wielding the pardon system to the old Catholic practice of papal indulgences.
vidluther2 days ago
that is in the works. Working on making sure the data of the pardons is correct first.
JKCalhoun1 day ago
If they were listed by Restitution or Fines Abandoned, there is a clear winner, ha ha.
nonameiguess2 days ago
I'm pretty sure the numbers are going up simply because 1) 90s sentencing laws got insanely strict and prisons are full of old guys serving inflated sentences, 2) drug laws eventually became more lax and people are in prison for things that aren't even criminal any more, and 3) prisons have simply run out of space and it's easier to release people than build more.

This kind of topic is bound to bring up a lot of outrage, but I'd invite people to remember it's the Marc Richs of the old buying pardons that you should be directing that toward. There are plenty of people locked up for a very long time who really don't deserve it. I recall a Chumash woman I worked with at the LA County Museum of Natural History 24 years ago. I gave her a ride home a few times and eventually realized I was taking her to a halfway house, and it came out that the FBI has busted her in the early 90s for criminal conspiracy and her only actual offense was refusing to testify against her husband, who'd been selling marijuana on their reservation under the logic that he didn't believe US law should apply because of the historical treaties about tribal land. She did 10 years in federal prison for that.

GorbachevyChase2 days ago
Friend, I hope you do not actually believe that man was selling dope because of his nuanced political theories.
fabianholzer1 day ago
Be that as it may, the jurisdiction I am living in has an explicit right to refuse to testify against a spouse. It is wild to me that one can construct a crime out of that, let alone one that warrants a decade of incarceration.
JuniperMesos1 day ago
Sounds completely plausible to me. Lots of people who sold marijuana in the 90s had some kind of principled objection to the laws making it illegal to do so.
none25852 days ago
Why is that so hard to believe?
vidluther2 days ago
@nonameiguess I agree on the pardon buying, the reason why I started looking into building this was because of a video by Liz Oyer, who pointed out all the restitution and fines that were being forgiven under Trump.

That's kind of how I came upon the name for the site, I wanted to see if there is any truth to the rumors that people are selling and buying pardons. In order to investigate that, we needed a set of data to start from, in a manner that was easily queryable as opposed to what's on the DOJ website.

justin662 days ago
The next step would be to dig into how much money is spent lobbying for pardons.

https://campaignlegal.org/update/inside-pardon-playbook-anal...

I'm pretty new to this particular issue so I don't have a ton to offer. It's really interesting, though. Nice site, by the way.

lateforwork1 day ago
Are you able to track repeat pardons of the same offender? If not you have a bug.

https://pardonned.com/pardon/details/adriana-isabel-camberos...

Adriana Camberos was in fact pardoned twice.

In 2021, convicted fraudster Adriana Camberos was freed from prison when President Trump commuted her sentence. Rather than taking advantage of that second chance, Ms. Camberos returned to crime. She was convicted again in 2024 in an unrelated fraud. In 2026, Mr. Trump pardoned her again.

Full story here: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/16/us/politics/trump-fraudst...

dylan6041 day ago
Commutation and Pardon are not the same thing though. If she was commuted the first time, she couldn't have been "pardoned again" as you state.

Commutation is ending any punishment for a conviction, but the conviction stands. A pardon wipes out the conviction.

lateforworkabout 18 hours ago
That's a difference without a distinction. In both cases Trump let her out of jail.
dylan604about 16 hours ago
To an obstinate person maybe, but to the person being commuted with a conviction on their record vs a person that has a clear record it is more than a difference with no distinction
vidluther1 day ago
Interesting story, but I do not see her name in the list of pardons and commutations on the source website twice.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/commutations-granted-presiden...

She only shows up here

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-don...

yorwba1 day ago
The first time was under the name Adriana Shayota: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/federal-jury-convicts-s...
millbj922 days ago
Presidents shouldn't have the right to outright pardon people. It should have to go through some sort of body beforehand and be voted on like everything else.
gbacon1 day ago
The pardon power is one of many explicitly anti-democratic measures in the U.S. constitution, which makes sense because the government that it defines is a federal republic and not a democracy.
senderista1 day ago
The USA is a representative democracy, also known as a republic.
zuminatorabout 18 hours ago
And regardless of whether the US government is a democracy or not, the frequent claim that it is a republic and (therefore) not a democracy is a non sequitur. It's like saying my suitcase is black and therefore not tall; the first has no bearing on the second.

It's just a thought-stopping meme. Thought-stopping because it ends up derailing conversations about policy or governance with dictionary definition arguments. A meme because the eye-rolling implication is that if our country is a republic and not a democracy, then naturally it's Republican and not Democrat(ic).

Furthermore, the fact that there are some anti-democratic elements in the US Constitution doesn't preclude democracy on the whole. Much in the way we consider our economic system to be capitalist despite there being many anti-capitalist components.

gbacon1 day ago
This claim is ahistoric. The ancient Athenians, the inventors of democracy, would reject it because they used popular elections in only a limited number of cases. Their suspicion was that popular elections were tools of oligarchy. Instead they preferred sortition, selection at random, to give rule of the people. They punished abuse of public power severely.

In the context of American thought, Federalist No. 10 goes into exacting detail as to why the proposed government was a republic and not a democracy. If a republic were merely form of democracy, then the entire document would have been a waste of time. Instead, this was a point of serious debate. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed10.asp

Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.

The U.S. constitution is explicitly anti-democratic on several points. Judges are appointed rather than elected and serve for life, intentionally intended, although admittedly with limited success, to remove them from partisan pressures and the fickle passions of the day. States have unequal representation in the House. Large states and small states have equal representation in the Senate. The president is not elected by popular vote but by a select group of electors. Executive, legislative, and judicial are co-equal; one may not compel the other even with an appeal to some election. Even a unanimity of voters may not pass certain legislation.

The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One’s right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.

Brown v. Board, https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep...

This compulsion to torture both language and history to apply the blessed label democracy to forms of government that do not meet the definition is puzzling. Call things what they are. Democracy is not a worthy end in itself. Majoritarianism and utilitarianism can be highly problematic and downright evil.

salawat1 day ago
The Pardon is a structural check on the legislative and judiciary. It cannot be done away with safely without causing massive problems down the road. If anything, this should be a learning experience for the country not to put criminally inclined presidents in office.
cheema331 day ago
> this should be a learning experience for the country not to put criminally inclined presidents in office

If the country didn't learn after the first term, what makes you think they will after the second term?

All signs indicate that the electorate is getting dumber.

dabinat1 day ago
The pardon has been abused by almost every president in recent history to pardon their family or associates (as far as I’m aware, Obama is the only one who didn’t, but please correct me if I’m wrong).

It’s in dire need of reform or replacement.

huhkerrf1 day ago
GW Bush also probably matches with Obama for your description, though he did commute (but not pardon) Cheney's Chief of Staff, which caused a permanent rift between Bush and Cheney.

He also revoked a pardon when he discovered that one had his father donate large sums to the RNC.

rootusrootus1 day ago
Did Biden pardon anyone that was not being floated by the incoming president for retribution?
wavint1 day ago
This is exactly the kind of thing the DOJ website should have provided natively. Good reminder that "public record" and "actually accessible" are very different things. Bookmarked.
cs7022 days ago
Thank you. Apologies in advance for nitpicking, but I think the correct spelling is "pardoned" (a quick search on Google confirms it).
SpyCoder772 days ago
Most likely that domain was already taken.
vidluther1 day ago
It's a play on Donald Trump, after watching a Liz Oyer video linking a very plausible pardon for sale scheme, I wanted to initially build a site that showcased pardons just by Trump, but I realized that would be partisan and not as useful.
cs7021 day ago
Ah, OK. Sorry I didn't get it right away!
SpaceL10n2 days ago
Pardon me, but this is a list of pardons given to pardoned people.
ceejayoz2 days ago
I'd presumed this was a wordplay on Donald Trump.
vidluther1 day ago
correct.
ks20482 days ago
Just yesterday, Trump said he's going to “pardon everyone who has come within 200 feet of the Oval.” [1] Free reign for crimes for the next 2.5 years.

Maybe removing this pardoning power could be a bipartisan goal... I guess we shouldn't hold our breath.

[1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-promises-pardon-ev...

amanaplanacanal2 days ago
On the bright side, if they get pardoned they can't plead the fifth and can be forced to testify against anyone not pardoned.
technothrasher2 days ago
Unfortunately, probably not. As they could simply invoke the fifth under the claim that they might incriminate themselves under some state law.
rootusrootus1 day ago
They would probably need to make a convincing argument to the judge that there was a state crime they would be at risk of being charged with.
CobraMode2 days ago
As long as they can still pardon the turkey.
Lio2 days ago
Pardon him for what? What is the charge here? Being a meal? Being a succulent Chinese meal?
winstonewert2 days ago
For anyone who might be confused about the pardoning a turkey reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Thanksgiving_Turkey_P...
gitaarik1 day ago
It's not that he just said it yesterday, he's apparently already said it a few times, and yesterday there was just a news article about it.
siliconc0w2 days ago
We should at least ban the "preemptive" pardon if not all pardons. Pardon means forgiveness for a specific convicted crime, not a means to grant blanket immunity.
lateforwork1 day ago
There are two types here: (1) Pardons for crimes not yet committed. (2) Pardons for crimes committed, but not yet convicted. The first type will allow the pardoned to commit a crime in the future for free, which obviously should not be allowed. The second should be allowed if we have this pardon system at all.

The second type became a political necessity, for example to protect Liz Cheney from a vengeful administration.

elAhmo1 day ago
The notion itself that someone needs to be protected by a 'vengeful administration', while judicial system should be not politically affiliated is telling how broken the whole separation of powers is. Everyone who is a ruling party puts candidates they know aligned with their views, resulting in 'just wait until my turn comes and I will do as much as damage as possible' cycle.
foobarchu1 day ago
> puts candidates they know aligned with their views, resulting in 'just wait until my turn comes and I will do as much as damage as possible' cycle.

There is exactly one party in the US that does this, and it's because they have dedicated themselves to blocking the other party from accomplishing much of anything when they get power.

Departed74051 day ago
(2) Do you mean not yet charged or not yet convicted ?

Because I can get you would want to shield some people from persecutions (just or unjust) from your successor, but I see no reason why you would be able to pardon someone charged but waiting for trial. This makes a mockery of justice, the public can't discover the facts but more importantly: why pardon someone that is still considered innocent ?

prepend1 day ago
Because the trial may take 5 years and consume lots of resources.

If they’ll be pardoned anyway, why?

rapnie1 day ago
(3) Morally highly questionable pardons of convicted criminals who committed high crimes. Preferably questioned by a well-functioning ethics commission for things like, well, conflicts of interest, corruption, and the like.
dboreham1 day ago
> a political necessity, for example to protect Liz Cheney

IANACL but surely there are other ways to protect people from politically motivated prosecutions? E.g. jail anybody attempting to direct the DOJ for personal or political reasons?

WillPostForFood1 day ago
The DOJ is part of the executive - so it is fiction that it was ever apolitical. RFK was JFKs brother, do you think they weren't coordinating DOJ's investigations into political opponents? (e.g. Jimmy Hoffa)

Congress created the DOJ, It is their job to police it. They can defund or even eliminate it. That's the check on it.

rootusrootus1 day ago
> jail anybody attempting to direct the DOJ for personal or political reasons?

When that person is the president and the Supreme Court has said they are immune from prosecution, you need something else to be a check.

dlev_pika1 day ago
Yeah, but it seems those other protections would/could possibly be a coin toss (eg a successful defense in a trial) and quite costly even if they never get to that stage, and you need a bit more certainty than that. Otherwise help can only come from those willing to become martyrs
frumplestlatz1 day ago
> The second type became a political necessity, for example to protect Liz Cheney from a vengeful administration.

Was it, though? It struck me as more empty political theater around an event largely defined by political theater.

lateforwork1 day ago
You are asking if it was necessary to protect Liz Cheney? Have you not seen the lengths to which Trump is going to punish Comey? Trump even fired Bondi because she was ineffective in targeting his opponents.
LocalH1 day ago
We should go as far as to preemptively ban and sanction any POTUS who says "I'm going to pardon these people before I leave office".

There's no reason to say that unless you know they're actively committing federal crimes in the present day.

torben-friis1 day ago
>There's no reason to say that unless you know they're actively committing federal crimes in the present day.

There are reasons. For example, you feel the justice system is going to be misused against them. Protection against future witch hunts basically.

I don't think this is what's happening here, and trump is on record talking very explicitly about weaponising the state against his enemies himself, but it's probably an excuse that will be used.

sanex1 day ago
That's what Biden did for Hunter right?
flowerlad1 day ago
Not true. Liz Cheney hasn’t committed any crimes (as far as we know).
gbacon1 day ago
Case law agrees with your reading only in part, namely that the pardon power may be exercised at any time after its commission, that is, not preemptive as in being granted before the act being pardoned has taken place.

However, the broader context reads

The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.

Ex parte Garland, 371 U.S. 333, 380 (1866) https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep...

Changing it would require not a mere legislative act but a constitutional amendment.

To the executive alone is intrusted the power of pardon; and it is granted without limit.

United States v. Klein, 80 U.S. 128, 147 (1871) https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep...

b00ty4breakfast2 days ago
There is no universe where any pardon is abolished unless there is a massive political shakeup. The entrenched political class is terrified of endangering their power and privilege even if individual players are ready to do it.
bloppe1 day ago
I've often wondered what would happen if a president explicitly offers to pardon anybody who murders members of Congress. Would they settle on reigning in the pardon power with an amendment?

We're sort of already there. A lot of the Jan 6 rioters were openly trying to murder congressmen. The fact they weren't successful isn't super reassuring.

9dev1 day ago
Nothing would happen, because SCOTUS decided to grant the president immunity for any crime committed in their official function, which would be the case here. It would literally be possible for the president to order congress killed, offer an automatic pardon to anyone carrying out this order, and establish a monarchy.

This single ruling will haunt the United States for the rest of its existence.

aexer0e1 day ago
Pardons only stop the federal government from prosecuting someone, the states would still go after those individuals
pfannkuchen1 day ago
> were openly trying to murder congressmen

Is there evidence of this?

This is one of those things where I’d love to get on board with the popular view but I haven’t found evidence that anything beyond a sit in was intended and the arguments seem to be floating in air if you follow them down to their root. But I haven’t done that much research so I’d appreciate if you could share what makes you think this, thanks!

jibal1 day ago
Congress can propose amendments but it takes 3/4 of the states to ratify them.
didgetmaster1 day ago
Like most political arguments, if you listen carefully; those who advocate for or against pardons, only want them to go one way.

A pardon is only a protection against a 'vengeful administration' if that administration is not your party.

Pardons are only a miscarriage of justice if those pardoned don't share your ideology.

giancarlostoro1 day ago
I agree. I dont care if “my guy” or “your guy” does it, it should not be allowed.
jibal1 day ago
We "should" do many things that aren't feasible, like this or anything else that requires a Constitutional amendment.
dlev_pika1 day ago
Modifying pardon powers requires a constitutional amendment? That’s wild.
jibal1 day ago
It's wild that anyone doesn't know that. It's less surprising than the fact that disallowing someone with 34 felony convictions from being President would also require a Constitutional amendment. Both the pardon power and the qualifications for President are specified by the Constitution, so of course the Constitution must be amended to change them.
2OEH8eoCRo02 days ago
The preemptive pardon is ridiculous. Pardon for what? What if it comes out someone is a child cannibal? Are they pardoned for that?
conception2 days ago
There’s no /s so I’m assuming you didn’t know that child cannibalism was in the Epstein files https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-breaking-down...

So to answer your question, seems like Yes, pardons for all!

fwipsy2 days ago
From the article you linked, child sacrifice allegations came from an anonymous FBI interview in 2019 and are not confirmed by any credible evidence. There are no cannibalism allegations; the word "cannibal" only appears in innocuous contexts.

So child sacrifice and cannibalism are only technically "in the Epstein files;" there's very little evidence that anyone did those things. For other readers, if you hadn't heard about this, that's probably why.

harimau7771 day ago
As long as that ban doesn't go into effect until after the next non-Republican administration. We need to be able to right the scales after MAGA's abuse of power.
jmyeet1 day ago
So I have mixed feeling on this.

I'm thinking of Carter fulfilling a campaign pledge to pardon draft dodgers. Whether you support that or not, he did what he said he was going to do and I'm sure only some of them had actually been charged in any way. I think that's a perfectly fine use for the pardon power.

Some will point to the Hunter Biden pardon. So two things can be true at once here: it was absolutely political prosecution AND Joe Biden was completely selfish with his action. At least do something for the people by, say, pardoning a whole bunch of low level drug offenders and decriminalize cannabis at the Federal level. But no, it was completely self-serving but his brain was pretty much gone by this point.

Here's the problem: Federal prosecutors have a ton of power. Conviction rates are 98-99%. But it goes beyond that. Federal prosecutors will intentionally bankrupt you to force you to take a plea. They might charge you with 15 felonies, 12 of which are basically bogus. You still have to defend those bogus felonies and that costs you money. And as soon as you run out of money, they'll offer you a plea where you're looking at 25 years on the 3 remaining felonies or you can just take 10.

The power imbalance is insane and the wealthy are essentially immune. If a US attorney decides to make an example of you, you're going to have a bad time, regardless of the facts.

Millions were spent dredging up some crimes for Hunter Biden and pretty much all they could come up with was doing crack and filling out a form incorrectly. Do you think anyone else would get that level of attention?

A very recent example of this is the Karen Read trial or, as I call it, the most expensive DUI prosecution in history. If you didn't follow the case, don't worry, there'll be any number of true crime documentaries. Millions were spent prosecuting Karen Read for killing JOhn O'Keefe with a completely ridiculous theory of the case and all sorts of evidence that went missing (including police officers disposing of their cell phones on a military base the day before an electronics preservation order was issued).

I don't know what we do about this power imbalance and selective prosecution.

mullingitover1 day ago
> Federal prosecutors have a ton of power. Conviction rates are 98-99%.

This always gets thrown around, but the fact is they should be that high. Prosecutors shouldn't bring cases unless they have evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and DOJ prosectors don't (normally) screw around.

When you see lower rates of conviction, as in the current ethically bankrupt administration, it's often malicious prosecution, aka "You'll beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride."

Spooky231 day ago
No, the original poster is 100% correct and if anything understating the issue.

US Attorneys are enormously powerful and because federal law is so vague in many ways, attracting their attention is a kiss of death. Most of federal defense work is highly technical and more about managing pleas and the mandatory sentencing guidelines. They agree to punishment and shape the plea deal to some crime that hits the number.

This weird technical approach to “justice” results in bad outcomes in other ways. The famously self-promoting Preet Bharara ended up letting a bunch of people free who quite obviously were taking bribes and fixing bids go free by abusing the “Honest Services” laws, which were subsequently thrown out on appeal.

The current administration is different - their weaponization of the system means that they literally can’t appoint qualified attorneys, who fear disbarment for what they will be directed to do. AUSAs have quit en masse and they are forced to hire toadies from 3rd tier law schools like Liberty University and make weird interim appointments. It’s a great time to be a criminal.

jmyeet1 day ago
I would be fine if high conviction rates reflected prosecutor's only bringing good cases. It doesn't. It reflects the odds being stacked against you and it being so expensive and high risk to defend yourself.

This high cost and power imbalance is used to force people into plea deals for crimes they didn't commit.

Let me give you an example: 924C enhancements [1]. This is where certain drug or violent crimes being committed with a firearm can add years or even decades to a sentence automatically.

Let's just say you live in a concealed carry state and you have a weapon on you. You're walking home and the police pick you up. You match the description of one of two people who were smoking drugs in an alley as per a 911 call. The other person was already picked up by police. He was unarmed. His story was that you sold him the drugs. He also claims you brandished a pistol.

Was there a drug transaction? Or was this simply two people smoking together? The other person had a small quantity of drugs on him when apprehended.

A 911 call mentioned seeing a weapon drawn. It was dark. You can go through versions of this scenario where you were the other person or it was a case of mistaken identity. Eitehr is bad for you.

What if the other person sold you the drugs and made up this story to avoid a distribution charge? What if as a teenager you had a minor possession charge? What if prosecutors believe the other person and make a deal for a reduced sentence in exchange for testimony?

You have a gun and now 2 witnesses who say you "brandished" the gun. So whatever charge you end up with the "brandishing a firearm" part (under 924(c)) adds 7 years to your sentence to be served consecutively. And they've stopped you with a firearm.

So what was a "he said, she said" situation has now turned into a situation where you could be facing 10 years in jail and defending against that could well cost you $200,000+, which you don't have. Or you can take this plea for 2 years in jail. What do you do?

[1]: https://www.nyccriminalattorneys.com/18-u-s-c-%C2%A7-924c-th...

tzs1 day ago
> At least do something for the people by, say, pardoning a whole bunch of low level drug offenders and decriminalize cannabis at the Federal level

In 2022 he pardoned ~6500 people with federal convictions for simple possession of marijuana. That didn't actually release anyone from jail because it turned out everyone in jail with a simple possession conviction was also in there for other crimes but for those for whom it was their only drug offense (both currently in prison or not) it wiped it off their record which would restore eligibility for various things that drug offenders are barred from.

Near the end of his term he commuted the sentences of around 2500 non-violent drug offenders.

jimkleiber1 day ago
I like the concept. I'd love to see more types of data available, especially maybe race, age, connection to the president or their families, donations that the pardoned/commuted people have given and to whom, and more.

I'd find that fascinating for seeing deeper patterns.

nerder921 day ago
https://pardonned.com/pardon/details/cindy-marie-griffith-fk... How come this ended up in the drug offence category?

The sentence reads: “Distribution of satellite cable television decryption devices”

vidlutherabout 20 hours ago
good catch, I think the classifier saw the "distribution" in the sentence and assumed it was drug related. I could probably run each sentence against an ai model to classify things..

probably run it against something small like haiku and not cost me an arm and a leg.

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jsiepkes2 days ago
> Pardons granted by Donald J. Trump (Second Term) Not Including the January 6th Pardons

Why not include the January 6th pardons?

vidluther2 days ago
That disclaimer is there for now to make it clear that we're not showing that data yet. I need to figure out how to show the mass commutations done by Biden as well.

Working on a comparison tool, so we can see # of pardons over admins, it seems the number of pardons has been going up each administration.

sensarts1 day ago
This is a great example of how a simple, focused tool can make public data easily accessible. Good job.
spuz1 day ago
This is the kind of data I would like to see on ourworldindata.org. They have good tools for visualising data and comparing between countries.
mpassman2 days ago
Nice. But why show Restitution Abandoned etc. if you have no way to calculate it?
vidluther2 days ago
i am calculating it if it's available in the sentence details. If the sentence details don't have a fine or restitution then we can't calculate it.
elicash2 days ago
Would love if you can track this more deeply and sort/filter/search through restitutions and fines. The ones you know about, that is.
digdugdirk2 days ago
Your numbers seem a bit off on the second Trump term. Trevor Milton was on the hook for over half a billion dollars of restitution alone.
vidluther2 days ago
Thanks for the heads up on that.. there's a lot of massaging/cross checking that still needs to be done. Right now the numbers are based purely on what the sentence is described on the DOJ website.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-don...

cmd-f trevor milton .. if the text for the sentence column doesn't say anything about a fine or restitution the system is not going to be able to figure that out.

The numbers for the prison time reduced is also technically incorrect, Ross Ulbricht, Rod Blagojevich and many others had already served many years in prison, so technically we should not count that as time reduced.

soumyaskartha2 days ago
This kind of civic data should have been easily searchable for years. The fact that someone had to build it says a lot about how accessible government records actually are.
KingOfCoders1 day ago
The benefits of an absolute monarch. Glad we don't have that in a democracy.
xrd1 day ago
Really terrific. Such fun to see overviews and then dig into the details to see how assumptions about each situation were inaccurate at first glance.
nottorpabout 24 hours ago
Who owns the domain with the correct spelling? :)
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totetsu1 day ago
Can someone overlay this with recorded political donations?
vunderba2 days ago
Thanks for this. As engineers, I think it’s natural for us to look at things like executive orders and pardons, tools that seemingly have no real restrictions or caps, and immediately see them as open to exploitation by bad actors.

The pardon system in particular needs a serious overhaul. For every case where a pardon is used to correct an "unjust ruling", it swings just as easily in the opposite direction. Frankly I have more faith in a decision that goes through the proper judicial process than in one made unilaterally by a single person with zero oversight. There's a reason it's been historically called the "royal pardon".

We need a combination of:

- hard caps on the maximum number of pardons a president can issue per term

- congressional review before those pardons take effect

shimman2 days ago
Reminder that the pardon is a vestigial leftover from monarchism. The idea that one single person can go "nuh uh" in a democratic country is just another massive failure of the US constitution, a legal document written to suppress the will of the people and allow for minority rule but too sacrosanct to change for "reasons" that all seem to only benefit a small minority of people.

Relegate pardon powers to only amount to commutations, at the bare minimum.

Oh fun fact, Alexander Hamilton thought monarchies were the best form of government.

DM701 day ago
May I ask you if your project does what nobody else does in USA?
vidluther1 day ago
are you asking me? if so.. I don't think I understand your question.
guest__userabout 14 hours ago
would be nice to search by district
fgkuescvricky1 day ago
Have you created a linked data SPARQL endpoint?
vidluther1 day ago
I don't know what SPARQL is.. so no :)
hk13372 days ago
I would have thought a lot of the drug offense pardons by Obama would have been for marijuana but looking at the first few pages, they’re not.

> 118 of 2,791 GRANTS

Only 118 list marijuana in the pardon text

dopidopHN22 days ago
Land of the free ( white collard criminals )
JKCalhoun1 day ago
The numbers suggest that 94% of all Fines Abandoned were just from Trump's first term.
dbg314151 day ago
Gonna make for a depressing read.
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CatDeveloper_about 21 hours ago
cool project :D
dboreham1 day ago
I've yet to see any justification (not even a bogus one) for why the pardon power needs to exist in the modern world. It seems to have been invented originally as a counterbalance against corrupt or crazy judges. We have other ways to deal with that problem now.
Luki12342 days ago
cool
insane_dreamer2 days ago
Presidential pardons should be banned, period. All presidential pardons are political in nature, and therefore not based on justice.
JuniperMesos1 day ago
This is equally true of the criminal justice process that sentences people to crimes at all.
andrewstuart2 days ago
Pardon power can serve no reasonable goal in a functioning democracy except to subvert justice.
glerk2 days ago
https://pardonned.com/search/?president=obama-2&categories=d...

I haven’t looked into each case here, but I assume these are a bunch of non-violent drug offenders serving years and decade-long sentences. I see 30 years for “possession with intent to distribute”. That’s just crazy.

When the justice system is clearly broken, it’s ok to subvert it.

layer82 days ago
The parent’s wording does actually imply that subverting justice is a reasonable goal.
ceejayoz2 days ago
There's some value to "the President can correct some wrongs". There are genuine miscarriages of justice sometimes and it's kinda nice to have a release valve for them.

The recent presidential immunity decision just made the downsides way more likely.

fernmyth2 days ago
It’s an alternative to coups and civil wars. The deal made in private conversations is something like “Give up power peacefully. Everybody gets pardoned and goes home to their families. Nobody needs to do anything crazy or violent out of desperation to avoid prison.”
salawat1 day ago
Justice is a moving target mate. Should people who had a few pounds of reefer still be serving 30 year sentences? 90's adults would probably say yes. Today? Not so much. Part of being human is being open to the fact you were wrong. The Pardon is the release valve that lets the Chief Executive remove the targets the System has painted on people's backs in response to a clear shift in public conscience. The public in recent history, threw all prudence to the wind and put a con man in office. Surprise, surprise when a con man uses the office to do what con men do.
spiderfarmer1 day ago
Needs a filter to see how much they paid to Trump.
KingOfCoders1 day ago
Democrats in the US ignore the destruction of democracy by their own presidents, Clinton only came into the office to grift, no interest in the gravitas at all, and Obama, OMG 1904 pardons. Trump is an extension of what Clinton and Obama did, more extreme, more grift, more corruption, more executive powers, no guardrails, but not new.