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The honest slogan is "Age Verification Solution for Europeans Who Use Mobile Devices that are Controlled by US Corporations and by Extension US Government Which Can Revoke Your Use of the Solution with No Recourse".
Can you elaborate on... why?
There were good ideas at first but especially data protection features have already been scrapped. Also you need to buy into the Apple or Google ecosystem, no alternatives allowed. Especially funny if the next sentence contains some reference about independence...
I will not use it for anything privately as I neither trust the issuer, nor the notified bodies providing the infrastructure.
Our police accessed app data from Corona movement apps, it will do the same for any and all digital solutions the bureaucracy tries to sell. This is political problem we had for decades. Authorities aren't trustworthy, the legislative refuses to introduce strong privacy protection and instead tries to do the opposite. They even further enabled large platforms to scrap user data even more unhinged. To hell with them and with their shitty projects, I don't need a shitty content gatekeeper, even if you pay me.
EDIT: A possible way, https://european-union.europa.eu/contact-eu/write-us_en
Yes, in https://ageverification.dev/av-doc-technical-specification/d..., section 2.3 User Journey says
“To enable online age verification, the User is required to install an AV app on their mobile device”
but section 3 Architecture says
“The solution relies on a device-based proof of age model, leveraging widely available mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets to store age attestations. This approach supports the goal of rapid deployment and broad accessibility. Alternative mechanisms for storing and presenting proof of age may be considered for future versions of the solution.”
and
“It is also recognised that devices may be shared among multiple users, for example, when a child has access to a parent’s mobile phone”
That indicates the child may not need to have a smartphone.
I think the vast majority of cases where this will be used it with users wanting to run smartphone or tablet apps, though. For those cases, requiring the user to own a smartphone isn’t problematic.
There's been extensive discussion about this, but the developers refuse to even fully acknowledge the problem.
And yes, it remains to be seen whether, as they say “alternative mechanisms for storing and presenting proof of age” that “may be considered for future versions of the solution” actually will actually surface, but their argument “The solution relies on a device-based proof of age model, leveraging widely available mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets to store age attestations. This approach supports the goal of rapid deployment and broad accessibility.” has merit.
The non-EU Serbia has the equivalent app, but also you might be able to get individual/personal e-certificate (for logging into e-government or signing e-documents) added into smart card chip of your ID. But in practice it seems thats only used for business purposes, like CEO/Accountants/etc to sign/submit business records/taxes.
It's one of the only things that Belgium does right.
The EAVS will be dropping yeah?