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pikerβ€’2 days ago
Though this outage may be more related to the copy.fail upgrade cycle, it reminds me of a thought I've had recently in respect of agents.

In the UK they have this issue called "TV pickup" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup). TV pickup is where everyone in the UK watching a popular TV show gets up to boil a high-powered tea kettle at the same time on an ad break. This causes a temporary surge in electricity demand and leads to real outages. It was a mystery at first but now is accounted for.

I suspect the global internet is facing an "agent pickup" problem where significant changes (e.g., releases of new frontier models or new package versions) puts unpredictable pressure on arbitrary infrastructure as millions of distributed agents act to address the change simultaneously.

ImJasonHβ€’2 days ago
tgvβ€’2 days ago
tharmasβ€’about 13 hours ago
Half time break for Coronation Street in the UK saw a power surge due to people putting the kettle on.
kurlbergβ€’2 days ago
I had the same impulse (or at least copy.fail inducing many to upgrade at the same time.) However, it might be a "pro-Iran hacktivist group" according to

https://www.theregister.com/2026/05/01/canonical_confirms_ub...

"Canonical says its web infrastructure is under attack after a pro-Iran hacktivist group instructed its members to target the open source giant."

Perhaps more to do with extortion rather than activism. (I have no idea how accurate theregister is on this story.)

Yoricβ€’2 days ago
Well, that and the rush to upgrade for copy.fail.

Has Ubuntu published patches yet?

jamessbβ€’2 days ago
Yes, but I can currently only load the page about them via the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20260430191621/https://ubuntu.co...
alecdwβ€’2 days ago
Patch published to disable the affected module. No patch for the module itself yet.
_DeadFred_β€’1 day ago
It appears to be a pro-Islamic Republic of Iran DDoS crew

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47975729

sig-11β€’2 days ago
We're at the stage where we blame AI for anything as a first reaction?

(Love the tv pickup story. I also thought of that, in other situations)

Hnrobert42β€’2 days ago
Indeed. It is far more likely to be the copyfail issue.
pikerβ€’2 days ago
I wasn't blaming this issue on that in particular, just making an more general observation in line with the post. I'll make that clearer.
linker3000β€’2 days ago
> leads to real outages.

Um, no.

I daresay you could find the odd example, as for any grid in a stressed situation, but it's not like we turn to each other every week in the dark and say "Oh, it must be half time at the Manchester United match".

mayhemducksβ€’2 days ago
Maybe they could use this DDoS attack as their 17th round technical interview. Any candidate who successfully mitigates the attack would then make it to the 18th round. Win win!
Yoricβ€’2 days ago
Do they finally meet a human being with an explanation on the position on the 18th round?
fragmedeβ€’1 day ago
Depends on their high school GPA.
kpsβ€’1 day ago
I did really well in Kindergarten, so I made it to the 22nd round.
TonyTrappβ€’2 days ago
While the timing with the copy.fail patches mentioned by a few comments here seems suspicious indeed, I have seen this repeating over the last few weeks: packages.ubuntu.com was hardly reachable on some days, causing apt-get to take forever to update the system. They have been struggling hard recently, it seems. Best of luck to the people having to deal with this mess on a holiday!
necovekβ€’1 day ago
The point of coincidental timing with copy.fail patches is that by DDoSing an upgrade mechanism for one of most popular distributions, you extend the time window certain systems remain vulnerable in order to exploit them.
Faaakβ€’2 days ago
Tinfoil hat mode: a competitor wants to exploit copy.fail on some ubuntu servers, and is DDoSing canonical so that they can't update and thus patch the vuln
yallpendantoolsβ€’2 days ago
Double tinfoil hat mode: an attacker learned of my plan to finally update my personal computer out of 20.04 today and is DDoSing canonical so I can't do that and I remain vulnerable to the backdoors they've found.

The plot thickens...

pixel_poppingβ€’2 days ago
you are the center of all this, I knew it.
bjackmanβ€’2 days ago
If you can access AF_ALG on a server you don't need to do shenanigans like that. It's much easier to just find another bug and exploit that one instead.

The copy.fail website is very silly, it is not a special bug. If anyone gets compromised by that vuln their node architecture was broken anyway, patching copy.fail doesn't help.

cmgβ€’1 day ago
My mind immediately went to chaining this with another recent vulnerability in the Ninja Forms - File Upload plugin [0]

> This makes it possible for unauthenticated attackers to upload arbitrary files on the affected site's server which may make remote code execution possible.

So, upload and execute a script that loads Copy Fail and even if you're only executing as www-data or another restricted user that "can't" sudo -- suddenly, uid=0!

To repeat the refrain... I'm so tired.

[0] https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2026/04/attackers-actively-ex...

mustardoβ€’2 days ago
I thought copy.fail is a privelage escalation exploit, become root from a regular user? Am I missing something?

How would "node architecture" make people vulnerable to this?

You have to have shell access to a victim first right? Or am I missing something?

bjackmanβ€’2 days ago
Yeah you need native code execution, and if you have AF_ALG access there is clearly no sandboxing in place. At that point it's game over on Linux, there are too many bugs. Even if you fix all the known ones in the current kernel, by the time the version with those fixes is qualified and released (not to mention, the machine must reboot), new LPEs have been discovered.
loufeβ€’2 days ago
In what way is it "not a special bug"? It's a publicly known root access from RCE exploit. Those cannot be a dime a dozen. I'm sure it's especially interesting for any shared hosting services which might be affected, and could be delayed. I could find any places running containered services and exfiltrate secrets parallel services, no?

What constitutes "special" for you, out of curiosity? Something chaining with a hypervisor exploit?

bjackmanβ€’2 days ago
It's not RCE it's an LPE in an obscure corner of the kernel attack surface that no sensible application depends on. They are absolutely a dime a dozen.

Even just in AF_ALG there have been several such vulns fixed in 2026 already. Kernel wide probably hundreds. It's true that most of them will be harder to exploit than this one but that just means you need to prompt your AI a bit harder to get an exploit. (To be fair, in a lot of cases it's gonna be hard to escalate privs without crashing the machine).

Ubuntu has userns restrictions now which takes away the main sources of LPEs (random qdiscs, nftables, all that garbage) but there are still huge numbers of these vulns. This is why platforms that do native untrusted code executions have extreme sandboxing. Note Android and ChromeOS aren't affected coz they already knew this code was broken and hide it from unpriv workloads.

You can't run untrusted code on Linux without either a very very carefully designed sandboxing layer (like Android/ChromeOS) or virtualization. copy.fail is just one among tens of thousands of reasons for this, and it's a pretty uninteresting one at that.

What is "special" depends on your usecase but for my job it's mostly about stuff that's exposed to KVM guests. Biggest source of concerning vulns for us is probably vhost. I expect there are also lots of undiscovered and scary vulns in places like virtiofs, vfio, DAX, and wherever we do device passthrough.

> I could find any places running containered services and exfiltrate secrets parallel services, no?

Yes. Regardless of copy.fail. Cloud providers don't do that without a VM layer. (If yours does, you need to switch).

IshKebabβ€’1 day ago
They're not dime a dozen exactly but LPE bugs in Linux (and common Linux distros) are easily common enough that nobody sane relies on user isolation as a serious security boundary.

Clouds use VMs as the security barrier, which is also not always 100% perfect, but is much better.

It could be useful as part of an exploit chain but generally once you've got to local code execution it's not going to be difficult to get further.

A "special" bug would be something that defeats a security barrier that people actually use, e.g. something that works remotely, or as you say - a hypervisor hack.

kubbβ€’2 days ago
s/competitor/intelligence services/
ramon156β€’2 days ago
+1, it hasnt even been 24 hours and I already see these stupid CyberSec companies trying to squeeze themselves between this.
touwerβ€’2 days ago
why a competitor? Criminals, secret services, country adversaries...
bouncycastleβ€’2 days ago
Seems reasonable to assume it's something to do with the recently publicized exploits. More likely, this could be an extortion attempt by criminals rather than a competitor.
ls612β€’1 day ago
It isn’t a competitor it is Iran.
corvadβ€’2 days ago
This seems to be pretty targeted, and with the services affected like livepatch and such this could indeed be an actor DDoSing to avoid patches rolling out for copy.fail
dangβ€’1 day ago
Related ongoing thread:

Pro-Iran crew turns DDoS into shakedown as Ubuntu.com stays down - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47975729 - May 2026 (59 comments)

Wxc2jjJmST9XWWLβ€’2 days ago
Noticed it because snap didn't work, snap has its own status page just fyi: https://status.snapcraft.io/
ForHackernewsβ€’2 days ago
Frustrating because the Slack snap is broken so every day you have to downgrade it and I guess you can't without connectivity.

This might be the incentive I need to finally purge snap.

wafflemakerβ€’2 days ago
Snap recently got much more polished.

I used to have to find a script to purge excess old snaps that would fill up my hard drive. Now Ubuntu only keeps two versions of each snap.

I was wondering why the script didn't have to ever clean more than one version, even when I took longer between running updates.

essephβ€’2 days ago
Just move to flatpak, much nicer to deal with
jacquesmβ€’2 days ago
I got rid of both and my system is much better for it. The only thing I still use that is distributed in such a format is AppImage, and mainly because it has never given me trouble.
lprovenβ€’2 days ago
In my testing I find the exact reverse. I much prefer snap to flatpak.
eklavyaβ€’1 day ago
Both fail hard for so many things. If you need any sort of hardware acceleration, just use an rpm/deb.
sidewndr46β€’2 days ago
It's almost certainly related to preventing the roll out of copy.fail fixes. Someone held the capability in reserve until they had a good reason to use it.
jollymonATXβ€’2 days ago
We are so broken as society ddos'n ubuntu is now a thing.
Benderβ€’1 day ago
Anyone from Canonical shared any pcaps of the attack yet? Or perhaps a summary of packet types, sizes, payloads, TCP/IP header characteristics? State table statistics?
securicatβ€’1 day ago
Explains why I needed to torrent Ubuntu 26.04 today. Even navigating to the alternative/mirror page to grab the torrent file was painful.
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SilentM68β€’1 day ago
Could this DDoS be affecting some components of https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net? I know they're supposed to be down and up again, but I still get errors when I update Ubuntu :(
somepersonβ€’2 days ago
I like to imagine it's returning a 500 error response asking you to email rhonda@ubuntu.com
drillsteps5β€’about 13 hours ago
Another wave today (5/2/2026), launchpadcontent.net is down...
bastardoperatorβ€’1 day ago
No mitigation can stop Aisuru. Let's hope it's not that because the only end in sight is them getting bored and moving on to the next victim.