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When there is something genuinely acknowledged as being valuable - and a $900B company certainly qualifies - people are going to fight over it. Only natural, because in most cases the way to get power is to fight for things that will make you powerful. Just look at the history of Facebook or Twitter or Google Chauffeur/Waymo or Cisco or the U.S. presidency.
When you get wealth and power without fighting, it's usually because you managed to identify something that would eventually make you powerful without anyone else realizing that it's important, until you become too big to overthrow. This is the story of the Google founders or E-bay or Github or...I can't really think of others, it's a pretty rare path to success. Either that, or seem non-threatening and mild-mannered enough that nobody attacks you and then be the last one standing after all the combative types have destroyed each other, like how Sundar got to be CEO of Alphabet or Bran Stark won the Seven Kingdoms.
any background on the game of thrones played inside google for Sundar to get there?
Expect it to get worse in the AI era because it comes with flattery as default.
Power doesn't always look like what you think it does.
> “There was something appealing about going to work at Microsoft with [OpenAI President Greg Brockman] on a pure AI research effort,” Altman testified.
How would Altman contribute to a pure AI research effort, he doesn't know anything about AI.
> Finally, Altman admitted that he had heard that people say that he is a liar, but after that win, Molo’s questioning seemed to lose steam.
I'm not one to defend Altman. I wouldn't piss on him to put out a fire. But this headline is crap.
Yes.
You deny it see, but.. ah bugger.. I hadn't planned for this outcome..
How can you "lose steam" on an admission of one of your own arguments?
> his co-founder, Ilya Sutskever, testified he created a 52-page dossier documenting Altman’s “consistent pattern of lying.”
Oddly enough the article doesn't go into that any further, despite what would seem like extremely relevant information.
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/814876/i...
A consistent pattern of lying': trial exposes what insiders think of Sam Altman
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48103417
Pathological is.