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blitzarβ€’about 4 hours ago
Is the "mic drop" in the headline refering to how bad a deal this is for any startup that takes it?
shimmanβ€’about 11 hours ago
What a great way to boost usage before an IPO. Definitely not scammy behavior!
xg15β€’about 2 hours ago
Is the term "tokenmaxxing" now really used unironically and as a desirable thing?
1123581321β€’about 9 hours ago
This sounds like how you get (or at least used to get) free AWS and Azure credits in your first x years as a startup or until you met revenue thresholds. You wouldn't get as many, but, you didn't have to give up a share of your company, to my knowledge.

Were there actually larger credit grants that would've been in exchange for equity, or, is OpenAI doing something novel?

KHRZβ€’about 12 hours ago
If that's in API price, they may be better of with the subscription.
jonahbentonβ€’about 14 hours ago
The desperation is strong in this one
bravetravelerβ€’about 11 hours ago
The first taste is free, with a certain perspective on equity
altairprimeβ€’about 10 hours ago
Isn’t that a taxable gift, i.e. reportable income for the recipient, given the normal price charged for said tokens, though?
bravetravelerβ€’about 10 hours ago
I have no idea, just a BigCo engineer! Like someone getting hooked... taxes are a Later Problem. Anyway, the deal sounds less like a 'mic drop' and more like something else hitting the table.

Say 'Whizbang Model 6.8' comes out and tokens burn ~5x faster; what to do? Agree to give up less of the business or hope for proportional growth? The two million that had been agreed is no longer truly available/applicable. How this and the equity 'shake out' are probably relevant.

At risk of upsetting people, token value is arbitrary. What model, what time of day? What transaction? All to say: I have no idea what the Tax Man or our fake business would want :) Above my pay grade, thankfully!

HWR_14β€’about 9 hours ago
No, because it's an investment for equity
kotaKatβ€’about 3 hours ago
It's just a little casual grooming for customers to prey on, is all.
dTalβ€’about 4 hours ago
Reminder that "$2 million worth of OpenAI tokens" is meaningless and codes for "as much access to OpenAI infrastructure as Sam Altman feels like letting you have".
intersticeβ€’about 4 hours ago
It could be at cost, but probably not
mawadevβ€’about 7 hours ago
Very odd shadow economy that is in the making here.
intersticeβ€’about 4 hours ago
Like sci-fi with currency based in kwh or life minutes but this time it's tokens
dude250711β€’about 14 hours ago
Adding more layers to circular investments.
just_onceβ€’about 12 hours ago
I thought code was free now
JacobAsmuthβ€’about 11 hours ago
Good ideas are expensive. Which is why he's blanket investing, to catch the winners.
just_onceβ€’about 3 hours ago
But why would they agree? Coding is free (or at least $200 a month)
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bigbuppoβ€’about 14 hours ago
Hey, it's the thing I said was going to happen. Thank's for taking my suggestion, Sam.
mooglyβ€’about 14 hours ago
Sounds like they have an oversupply of these tokens.
sellmesoapβ€’about 11 hours ago
It's only a token offer... I'll see myself out.
seattle_springβ€’about 10 hours ago
> i am excited to see what will happen with tokenmaxxing startups, both for how they work internally and the products they can build.

Am I the only one who gets a physical, visceral churning in their gut when they read/hear someone unironically using the term "tokenmaxxing"?

This is the absolute worst timeline, and I'm embarrassed to even be in an industry adjacent to these dorks.

phendrenad2β€’about 12 hours ago
Maybe they can borrow a few OpenAI engineers too?
cyanydeezβ€’about 12 hours ago
so weve officially reached the gambling sddiction portion of the LLM show. good luck FOMO