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Nextcloud Hub 26 is Nextcloud 34 and follows Nextcloud Hub 9 which is Nextcloud 33.
And I could be off on those exact numbers.
Hub 9 aligns with cloud 33. But they are switching Hub to a dated numbering scheme because it's intended to be timestamped. It's not "Hub 26" its "Hub 26 Spring" -- it's not a version number, it's a time.
The underlying Nextcloud keeps an incremental semver release version so it can be based on features rather than timeline. Because the Nextcloud version and Hub version aren't tied to each other.
This would be like saying that iPhones have a confusing naming scheme because iPhone 17 uses iOS 27 and has 2 different numbers. If next year's iPhone was called "iPhone 2027" and used "iOS 29", we'd still understand that.
How do you folks deal with these massively increased threats to self-hosted open source apps?
You could also use tailscale for auth, but i like to enforce separate authentication so that you have to be authenticated to the tailnet and have to go through the normal authentication to app.
I use quite a few Nextcloud features where access via tailscale is either inconvenient or impossible. My whole family uses the calendar on their phones and other devices, which means they would have to either learn about VPNs, or I would be the one managing all their devices for them. (Neither are likely to happen.)
I also often share individual files or folders with external contacts as a more private alternative to dropbox or google drive.
The iOS applications also are quite poor. For example the home screen widget has never shown me any of my favorited items even though it should, I have many favorited items, it is fully synced when I'm on my home network, yet it says "no favorites".
Considering the size of NextCloud and how long they've been around I wish they would fully complete more of their offerings before launching a dozen new ones.
Just like Home Assistant, it is a "must have" tool for self-hosters.
Lot's of people say that's a mess to maintain and too broken to actively use.
I often doubt if that's due to actual problems, or mix with that and bad decisions on the setup. Is dockering, keeping the data handling itself outside of it and a few other easy (or not so much) precautions enough to have a somewhat smoother sailing?
Also, how much time do you need to keep things from failing apart?
I didn’t want to give it access to the docker socket, with the ability to spawn its own containers. So instead I just use the nextcloud container directly. (With several other containers, like DB, reverse proxy, collabora, etc) It’s a mess to configure, hence their recommendation to use their “all in one” setup. All sorts of weird defaults with documentation that says “this is the default but you should absolutely change it to do X instead so that it performs better”. Things like setting up a service to generate thumbnails, setting up redis, etc.
Once configured though, it mostly just works. You can’t let it auto update between major versions, but you probably should be doing that anyway. There are usually breaking changes and you have to manually run a command or two between major updates. That doesn’t happen too frequently though.
I can’t speak to the quality of the all-in-one setup. It’s likely easier than what I did - but also what’s the point of putting it in docker and also giving it control of docker? Seems to defeat the point of containerization.
https://github.com/julien-nc/phonetrack
Lab use: https://git.medlab.host/MEDLab/Handbook/src/branch/main/docs...
Personal use: https://nathanschneider.info/2026/06/toward-a-durable-writin...
My instance killed itself somehow, likely a failed auto update. I was, of course, using the default docker setup with the watchtower instance etc etc. I never got it to come back up, and I haven't missed it at all.
Even opening the damn login page took a good 30 seconds to load, there's no excuse for this kind of performance on a real-deal enterprise server.
I'm not going to claim nextcloud is the snappiest app but I can open it right now, from across the world from my server as I'm on vacation, and it loads in <5s. I haven't done much tuning.
They even have a specific guide for this topic, https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/admin_manual/instal...
As a side note, it's PHP so your single core clocks will generally be more relevant for latency than multi-core performance, feeding many cores requires a lot of divisble work.
I have maintained a Nextcloud server for a small business for the last 6 years. I agree when I started using it early 2020 that the ui felt less modern, but after some updates down the road up until now it looks completely like it is from this era. Am I missing something? However, I never complained about the UI neither then nor now.
Developers either don't use macOS at all, or don't care.
But functionally it works for our small team.
"your your" typo aside, I remember when Nextcloud moved from a drop-down menu for the apps to listing them all out separately on the header bar, to make them more visible and reduce the clicks to switch apps. I guess they've changed their minds again; I look forward to when they change them back.
I don't have a ton of space so something that fits in the media center.
I know it’s not the question you asked but I feel not enough people know about it as an option and it’s really as good as Google Photos.
SSDs shall be single sided and gonna need heatsinks, but I believe it works well and is not tied to any manufacturer for anything.
If you want go all-out get ASUSTOR's Ryzen based systems. You can use the stock firmware or disable it without wiping it and deploy TrueNAS on it. It's a beast.
TrueNAS has containers and applications and VM support so you can run any service you want on it.
NextCloud uses its own updater* (which I don't like), and aside from some recent MariaDB snafu it's been very low maintenance.
- Owncloud: The 'original' platform, written in php, still developed today
- Nextcloud: A fork of Owncloud (php) by some of the people that worked on it, including the project founder over directional differences, now more widely used than the original Owncloud
- Owncloud infinite scale (OCIS): An implementation of the Owncloud server in Go, with the goal of making it faster and more scalable than the PHP version
- Opencloud: A fork of Owncloud infinite scale (Go) after an acquisition of ownCloud, the company.
Find an alternative.
It’s boring. It works.
OwnCloud is written in Go but employs an open-core model. Some features are locked behind a proprietary paywall.
I tried for weeks to get OCIS working but gave up and went back to ownCloud 10.
They’re committed to security updates for 10 but it’s a small company. I doubt it will get much attention sadly.
Lol what? Facebook (pre Hack), Tumblr, Wordpress, Etsy...
I'm running NextCloud, but I hesitate to call it good, because of its kitchen sink approach to features. I really want 2015 era OwnCloud with just files, it being PHP/MariaDB/Apache-based. I refuse to use anything that requires Docker, which is most of the slop alternatives currently available.
I am grateful Nextcloud exists, but no app deserves a vibe coded Rust rewrite more than Nextcloud. Literally nothing to loose
I'm not aware of any "Fix" besides whiping your install(s) and trying again. Try not to use a backup if you can, as it can keep the slowness/lag across installs.
It's really annoying.
The whole NextCloud suite seems to have this problem of too many offerings that don't get polished to completion.