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mike_hearnabout 2 hours ago
"Researchers" here means the CCDH, another front organization for Imran Ahmed. Ahmed isn't a researcher in any meaningful sense. He's a political activist whose answer to every political question is always more censorship, and he's involved in a nasty legal fight with Twitter/X which is accusing him of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (i.e. illegal hacking). That's a major conflict of interest that Le Monde doesn't mention.

There's a whole article written about this guy because he's such a bizarre figure. Nobody can figure out where he gets his money or influence, he constantly changes the names of his organizations and it's unclear who works for or funds him. He has previously misrepresented his orgs as just grassroots activism yet they never identified who their activists are. Eventually investigative journalists discovered they were all Labour and Democrat party operatives, and it took several years for Ahmed to even admit he had any connection to these groups.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/censorship-...

Ahmed operates in the USA as well and has been instrumental in organizing advertiser boycotts of numerous different organizations, both on the left and right. The only consistent theme is he targets anyone outside the establishment consensus.

The motive underlying all of this stuff is that Britain's governing class has created a catastrophic mess and doesn't know what to do about it, so they grab onto the only idea they have: stop anyone talking about what's happening. They plan to implement the Soviet/Chinese approach in which they'll censor hard enough that reality itself stops mattering. It's the Tiananmen Square problem but for Britain. Nobody will riot when an "asylum seeker" gouges out their neighbour's eyeballs and then tries to behead them with a kitchen knife, if the only source of information anyone has is the BBC and friendly social networks where resharing the BBC is the only action allowed. And if they control all information then they can restore the cozy historical norm of two parties that agree on all the things that matter, with nobody else able to organize.

They had basically managed this from 2015 up until Elon bought X and uncensored it, which is why they're not going to rest until they have Musk in prison and/or x.com blocked by ISPs along with every VPN service that allows a bypass. The alternative would be to initiate a Gorbachev/Deng Xiaoping style reformation in which they admit their worldview is built on false beliefs with terrifyingly violent consequences.

tastyfaceabout 1 hour ago
Awkward to associate this insane rambling with your real name, ngl.
zhoBEENGabout 3 hours ago
I think maybe what was instrumental in the Belfast riots was a Sudanese man attempting to behead an NHS worker in the street.

But, you know, that’s just a guess.

bzzztabout 3 hours ago
That's like saying Gavrilo Princip started World war 1. Of course he played a part but the people owning media and influencing the public debate for their own political goals play a much bigger part.
zhoBEENGabout 2 hours ago
I would also argue that the killing of George Floyd sparked the BLM riots, if that helps. But yes, I agree that media helps people become aware of these atrocities and certainly riles them up. But it’s not like pogroms didn’t happen before the internet.
tastyfaceabout 2 hours ago
Correct, anon, that's just a guess. Because after that happened, hate-mongers like Musk started a pogrom to burn down a bunch of unrelated people's houses. The act of violence you mentioned is not what got people rioting. Horrible crimes happen every day, after all.

Believe me when I say that as a white person, I'd much rather count some Sudanese immigrants as my neighbors than anyone in these lynch mobs.

pythonic_hellabout 3 hours ago
9 day old account. Mods should remove this blatantly false statement.
jazz9kabout 4 hours ago
The Democrats posted violent narratives all over Twitter, which resulted in BLM/George Floyd riots.

Strange I never saw an article shared on HN about it.

OgsyedIEabout 3 hours ago
Did such articles exist?
tastyfaceabout 2 hours ago
"Defund the police" is not the same as "terrorize immigrants for the survival of the white race."