Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

erentz•41 minutes ago

This would be an incredible $1,800 from each taxpayer sent overseas to the Iranian regime. On top of what’s already been spent and the inflation caused. In any other time in history just this alone (ignoring all the other scandals) would lead to something like a landslide 100 seat swing in the house. The fact polls show we’ll be lucky to see 10 seats switch shows how incredibly broken our information environment has become.

mdp2021•about 2 hours ago

I would campaign that the deal be fulfilled with private money instead of public funds.

(Or, act to show - roots and consequences - that this should be the proper procedure.)

ciconia•29 minutes ago

I got news for you: that private money - a big chunk of it comes from public funds.

mdp2021•25 minutes ago

(You won't solve any problem if you try to solve all of them at once - unless you tackle common roots.)

Can anybody for f.ing f. f. do something against the snipers who annoy and add nothing to the discussion?

We are at staggeringly low levels of general civilization and ### even push it.

fifilura•5 minutes ago

> Can anybody for f.ing f. f. do something against the snipers who annoy and add nothing to the discussion?

I don't care about your comment but I downvoted you for the rude language.

3eb7988a1663•about 3 hours ago

Surely such a deal would have to be approved by Congress, right? Would they really have the votes?

WarOnPrivacy•about 3 hours ago

> Surely such a deal would have to be approved by Congress, right?

That's the law. But Congress is abdicating much of it's power. The SCotUS defers to the WhiteHouse (ex:sides with the admin 90% of the time). The mechanisms that foster ethics in the 3 branches are being intentionally sabotaged by the majority in power.

joxdosba•about 2 hours ago

What is congress going to do? Say “never negotiate with the US”?

It’s not like congress can very feasibly reject this deal in the end, Iran would just extort the gulf countries and it’d be even harder to sell an intervention.

3eb7988a1663•about 1 hour ago

Iran has been bombed at least twice during negotiations. Surely there is some skepticism that the US will not keep the deal.

There is no winning move -which is why this never should have been started. Congress absolutely can and should reject the deal. I thought we were worried about the deficit? Or is that just when the next guy is in charge?

brewdad•6 minutes ago

Congress will find a way to make sure this money is paid out in 2029. Then they will blame Democrats for the hole in the budget and our stupid electorate will believe them.

It’s been this way for almost my entire life and I’ll be collecting SS soon.

joxdosba•about 1 hour ago

If the congress rejects this deal, it cripples the US ability to negotiate in the future and essentially just forces an unconditional US surrender as nobody has appetite for a ground invasion of Iran.

Congress can only sabotage deals like this at an immense cost to the US’s future ability to negotiate anything with anyone, and it certainly can’t sabotage it’s way into a more favourable deal.

nixon_why69•about 1 hour ago

The article says "funded by the gulf coast coalition" so it doesn't sound like they're planning on asking Congress.

No way congress passes that appropriation. They wouldn't pass the first JCPOA which is why Trump could shred it so easily.

joxdosba•about 1 hour ago

>No way congress passes that appropriation

No way congress passes an appropriation you just invented, which even the most optimistic Iranian propagandists are not claiming to be happening?

I mean yeah. Most random things you can come up with are likely to be things that congress will never pass.

bediger4000•about 2 hours ago

Why was it bad for Obama to release much less than this to assure the earlier joint agreement? We heard a lot about how bad that was. Pallets of cash they said, real bad.

newtonianrules•about 1 hour ago

Because Democrats are held to different standards. I mean just look at the last year.

seanmcdirmid•25 minutes ago

Trump has never felt any shame for hypocrisy. Or any shame at all actually.

Vance: Iran can have access to $300B reconstruction fund

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