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ggmβ€’about 2 hours ago
A lot of thaler related projects. Nothing wrong with that, but it suggests that something (the EU digital independence drive?) is making people on the board interested in funding digital cash related stuff.

Thaler presumably winds up having to have a clearing house function, which is a public utility question: Maybe NLNet foundation is thinking about the long history of the dutch engagement in fintech, back to the 17th century?

em-beeβ€’about 2 hours ago
there is a dedicated fund for taler, that alone explains why there are so many projects. now why there is a fund for that is the real question to ask. i guess the people behind the next generation internet initiative giving money to the foundation thought it is an important topic.
VitaSetLLCβ€’about 2 hours ago
Unlike those commercial FPGA companies that haven't open sourced their FPGA Architecture source code, VitaSetLLC has, available on https://github.com/VitaSetLLC/VitaOS-Libre under a permissive open source license.

Also the Vita FPGA Architecture Logic and Memory Blocks are bug-free.

6_7β€’22 minutes ago
I'm sorry, how many??
em-beeβ€’about 3 hours ago
i have been considering whether i could apply with my project. i am unsure because until now i am working alone and because of financial difficulties work is stagnating since i need to focus on earning money. i posted about the project here if anyone is curious: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159045

i have difficulty to judge whether this project is suitable for a grant, and i don't know how much effort it takes to apply and whether i can afford to spend that time instead of focusing on finding other paid work.

andaiβ€’about 2 hours ago
Maybe you should make a video explaining what you're working on. I spent a few minutes trying to figure it out and didn't get very far. It's a fork of ... looks like Google Docs, but German, and 25 years old?

(Also it looks like most of the repos haven't been touched in a long time. Which repo is relevant?)

dannyobrienβ€’about 2 hours ago
apply. you have nothing to lose, and the bureacracy/burden is very small. I'm a big NLNet fan.
Multicompβ€’about 3 hours ago
I missed seeing DeltaChat on there from past grants, but I'm glad to see new projects I've never seen before.
jbverschoorβ€’about 2 hours ago
Mox not there?
greatgibβ€’about 1 hour ago
European "institutional" projects are always so brain fucked...

If you look "how to apply they say": We've kept the application form short so as not to waste your time.

They you see the form... https://nlnet.nl/propose/

ok, getting thousands of euros deserve a little bit of paperwork, but let's not call that form "short".

But what triggered me is the following field of the form: Which model did you use? What did you use it for? Please submit the dates of the prompts, the prompts themselves and the unedited output in this text field.

Then you can see the "AI" policy that is attached: https://nlnet.nl/foundation/policies/generativeAI/

And in my modest opinion, that is another perfect example of the bureaucratic stupidity nightmare.

I would understand to ask details about your intended usage of LLMs for the project. Also to ensure that LLMs is only used as an assisting tool but not to do the work autonomously.

But imagine listing the "dates" and "prompts" that you used, for example to ask the llm to correct your badly written sentences to fill the stupid fields of their form?

And then, recording every time you used a LLM (coding or not) for whatever for the project... Assuming that the recipient of the grant will not lie anyway. This record doesn't give any proof that the code is not "stolen", "copied", or "contaminated".

Just have the delivery evaluated. Independently or by the project receiving the change. Judge on results for once instead of getting orgasms based on the paperwork trail. In the end, why should we care if the author had to use a LLM, a code editor, a spreadsheet, a marabout, or whatever else? If we can confirm that the result is there, in satisfactory condition (clean and safe code, good performance, ...) and without apparent "copyright violation".