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arjieabout 1 hour ago
> I was struck by the fact that the blog post had 43 views. With such low stakes, how did this case make it to federal court and reach summary judgment???

Yeah, fascinating that a 43-view blog post would go all the way to the federal court like this. Surely the plaintiff often has people give up and pay because they fear the case? Otherwise the economics of chasing down copyright violations of this scale surely don't make sense.

jdlshore40 minutes ago
It was a prior case that 44 views, not this one. But this one was similar in its low view counts.
kmoserabout 2 hours ago
Lots to comment on but this stood out:

> “A lawsuit like this heightens the demand for Generative AI replacements.”

Most generative AI corpora were arguably trained on copyrighted material, making the output potentially infringing.

FanaHOVAabout 2 hours ago
There is plenty of precedent being written here. It does not seem to be the case at all for the average use of this technology.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922

jterrys11 minutes ago
Ye olde double edged sword

On one hand aggressively punitive copyright claims stifle creativity and innovation in transformative art. On the other hand, generative AI reopens that transformative creativity.

CrimsonRain13 minutes ago
same goes for anything you output :)
rectangabout 2 hours ago
Even if the specific image being infringed were not in the corpus, it's possible that a court would return a judgment of copyright infringement.

Consider the case where someone deliberately prompts the AI to build a facsimile image and the AI does a creditable job after some tweaking.

ralph84about 1 hour ago
Except everyone who has tried to argue that in court has lost.
mock-possum3 minutes ago
> there is a dearth of evidence on the record that Messiah knowingly failed to credit the Photographer when she posted the Parker Train Photo on her blog ... Messiah merely found the Photo on Google Images by searching “army fashion,” saving the file on her computer without altering the Photo or the filename, and then publishing the Photo on her blog. She testified that at that time, she looked for a watermark, could not find one, and had no knowledge of the Photographer. She also testified that the filename, “Melvin-Sokolsky5.jpg,” was provided by the source website and she did not know it referenced the Photographer.

That’s a bit rich, isn’t it? Why did she not simply search the file name, nevermind reverse image searching the photo itself? Since when is ignorance an excuse - especially in a case like this, when claiming ignorance/negligence could easily cover for deliberate intent?

tancopabout 2 hours ago
another day another reason why copyright should be for commercial use only (yes that means piracy will be legal). you can throw out entire categories of bad faith cases. art stealing companies still have to pay up and its easier to get what you deserve as an artist when the courts not filled with a backlog of useless low value claims.
thewebguyd27 minutes ago
That would be great. I'm a photographer outside of my day job, and commercial use is really the only thing I give a crap about. Use my photos by all means for whatever personal use or reasons you have, I (and I'm sure other copyright holders as well) really only care when someone is using the work in direct competition with my/their own business.

Personal/non-commercial use should be fair game for everything for everyone.

jdlshore40 minutes ago
This blog had a commercial purpose, according to the article.