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kristianpβ€’about 2 hours ago
> Numbers like that buy a model a real migration effort.

Such a silly choice of words. I wish the human directing the LLM writing the article put some effort into rewriting the worst examples of LLM style.

> But it did extremely well, and the promise was immediate and specific: builds finishing in less than half the wall-clock time, at 27% lower cost, scoring at or above our incumbent on completed work.

The way the LLMs write (Claude perhaps?) With short phrases separated by colons, commas or full stops, is so poor and frustrating.

There some good insights behind this article, so it's worth reading, for example below, but it isn't easy to read.

> Earlier GPT models cached implicitly on partial prefix matches, which gave decent hit rates for free. GPT-5.6 dropped partial-prefix matching:

blfrβ€’about 2 hours ago
> Ploy’s agent builds and edits real marketing websites. It plans a page, reads the codebase, writes components, generates imagery, screenshots its own work, and decides when it’s done. That job description sets a very high bar for a model, and we test every frontier release against it. For the four months Opus held the default slot (first Opus 4.7, then 4.8), nothing we tested beat it.

Well, unlike OP I haven't run a rigorous test, but I still would expect Fable to be significantly better at building marketing websites than Opus. It sure is way better at building decks.

greenavocadoβ€’about 2 hours ago
4.7 is very autistic in terms of following directions so I find OPs claims plausible
arikrahmanβ€’about 1 hour ago
Very descriptive there heh
estebarbβ€’about 1 hour ago
But what users prefer? Given this is for marketing, which results produce more conversions? From the examples shown, personally I strongly preferred Claude Opus in all cases.
arikrahmanβ€’about 1 hour ago
Migrating my workflow to Reasonix with cache hits on Deepseek make requests practically free, and that's on unsubsidized American providers.
hankbondβ€’about 2 hours ago
Thank you for a dense informative article with practical takeaways. This was an easy read and it reinforced the importance of some concepts in LLM based pipeline design.