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light_triad•32 minutes ago
This is the taste question applied to Mathematics in a similar way it's been applied to code. In an era of AI abundance, the question becomes what the goals are and what gets verified and digested (adopted by users). Goodhart’s law: the goal of producing code is not just about maximizing the number of tokens used, but the productivity gains and economic surplus.

This could serve as the template for any field in the age of AI: "We are not trying to meet some abstract production quota. The measure of our success is whether what we do enables people to understand and think more clearly and effectively about math (or products, or science, or hardware...)"

doomrobo•about 3 hours ago
Recording of a talk with the same title. I’m not certain it’s the same content as the linked PDF though

https://youtu.be/mS9Lr43cIB4

pyentropy•about 1 hour ago
Note that the SAIR lecture is from 6 months ago, this Beamer presentation is from 2 days ago.
megaloblasto•about 1 hour ago
This is the thought process that I fail to see many people take (both here and other places). AI is changing many fields, ok what does that look like and how do we adapt? What can we do now that we couldn't before? What skills should I learn to adapt to this changing world? I think this is how we move forward. If you can get past the scary aspects of AI (not talking about datacenters or billionaires, that is a different subject) then you might be able to see how exciting this can be.
Yokolos•about 1 hour ago
Even as somebody who uses AI every day and has integrated it in useful ways, I don't see how the rise of the AI industry can be anything other than terrifying. It signals the rise of a new feudal system. Couple that with the rolling back of democracy across the globe and growing trend of authoritarianism, even in Europe, and I just can't be excited. In Germany particularly, it feels like every week there's some new idea to increase surveillance and control over the populace while the AfD is knocking on the door.
2snakes•about 1 hour ago
Open source intellectual power though. The promise of the personal computer.
jimmy76615•about 3 hours ago
It was an excellent talk. If nothing else, it really helps to establish some much needed vocabulary for us to constructively talk about the future of math
0x1ceb00da•about 1 hour ago
Is there a video for this?
4848488448•about 1 hour ago
It really is sad that supposed leaders of technical fields have been reduced to TED tier clowns for profit
pyentropy•about 1 hour ago
In times when software eng teams push for maximizing token usage, Tao's public view is to encourage verification, limit AI use for tasks that have real-life consequences and prevent low-effort papers that exhaust the review pipeline?

He also focuses on training the next generation of mathematicians and prioritizing the process of slow digestion of results, which to me sounds very.. reasonable?

onraglanroad•29 minutes ago
There's no real point in engaging with these bot accounts. They'll keep making points that sound superficially correct but allow an argument against.

TT has real results which is why his opinion is worth listening to even when you disagree. These random accounts are dismissable immediately.

Except to make jokes about of course.

4848488448•about 1 hour ago
Taos public view is to engagement farm and he'll swap to the new nfts or crypto when this is done because once you go down this road theres no going back with the lifestyle creep
230581abv•26 minutes ago
The man just cannot stop. First, a lengthy introduction with caveats which can be used to hedge later.

Then he goes all in on AI again. He is sponsored by the AI for Math Fund (Renaissance Technologies) and I'd really like a yes/no disclosure about OpenAI stock options.

People give him the benefit of the doubt because he always has been unable to stay off the Internet for more than a day. But this is really unprecedented.