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Menethβ€’17 minutes ago
It looks like you're trying to destroy the world. Would you like some help with that? /Clippy

https://gwern.net/fiction/clippy

rcarmoβ€’17 minutes ago
This is lovely and a reminder of why I used pi as a basis for my own harness. I have a similar idea in LISP that isn’t as minimal, might go all in on eval…
azath92β€’about 1 hour ago
I have to say I enjoy the brevity and clarity of this idea, given the ease of producing something large and unfocused in the last couple of years.

I hope it stays very simple, and would be interested if the author or anyone else can speak to what kind of complexity arises from using it, rather than bloating out the seed itself with initial complexity.

Ive been thinking about starting stimple with a pi framework for example and letting the tools emerge, but this is so much more lean to start, i wonder if it will be more or less interesting and or useful to start here.

lnenadβ€’about 1 hour ago
I think as many things that are posted here lately there is no *why* attached to the readme. Why would one use this, what is the benefit of this approach? Am I really gonna need my model to build exotic tools around it; or is exec/web_search/web_fetch enough for 90% of the use cases? Is my agent not capable of writing new plugins/tools for pi/opencode?
greyishbluβ€’17 minutes ago
If your needs are met otherwise stick to that and move on.

Not everything needs to fit your needs, including the documentation. Bizarre how you seem to think someone else owes you answers to questions you don't seem to want to try and answer yourself.

Since I am here though and find this project actually interesting; I like the idea of systems that offer, overall, the same utility but are implemented to be as minimal as possible. LLMs are exactly that; look at all the utility from some for loops sorting a huge pile of data. So a harness that's also minimal at its core and endlessly self extending just corner cases unlike pi's ponytail skills which ironically packs a ton of opinions into a workflow up front, pitching the minimalism it aspires to in the bin, seems like a Homer car to me.

But I am a hardware engineer biased by experience with minimalism; I got a single data structure (electromagnetism) to manipulate and BOMs that come with hard constraints.

On the contrary, web SaaS devs want to run a business/rocket to the moon moreso than be an engineer. As such git pulling, pip installing the world allows them to focus on their get rich quick with as little labor involved as possible goal front and center.

FluffyPancakeβ€’6 minutes ago
> Bizarre how you seem to think someone else owes you answers to questions you don't seem to want to try and answer yourself.

This, of course, depends on your goals, but if your goal is for your project to reach more people for whom it is relevant, it is not crazy to provide some basic motivation.

"Why anyone should use this" is the fundamental question that anyone building something with the intention of other people using it should be thinking about. For example, Pi agent provides lots of information on the thinking and motivation behind the design. Even if I don't use the project, I come away learning something interesting.

azath92β€’about 1 hour ago
I agree some why could be interesting. I would add to your list, because IMO this is more of a thought experiment-as-repo than a utility focused tool, what can i see by using this that i cant with a more fully fledged starting point?