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eyehurtsme•about 3 hours ago
From the author:

"OpenAI’s charter defines AGI as “highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work.” Its leaders won’t quite declare they’ve reached that threshold. But they no longer speak about it as a distant abstraction. Chief research officer Mark Chen estimated OpenAI is “80% of the way” to AGI. Brockman said that viewed from two years in the future, this may be remembered as the moment AGI was created. Altman told me that OpenAI was “not quite yet” there, but that by the end of the year the company would have an internal system he would call AGI."

When will that internal system make it out to the public? Or should it ever be released to the public is probably the better question...

ksec•about 3 hours ago
I mean Open AI has the incentive and history of hyping it up. And the general rule the last 20% would take the same amount of time as they got the first 80%.

But having said that, it is getting ridiculously good and plenty of people find enough value out of AI as of today. In terms of hardware we already knew what the next 3 to 4 years would be like. There seems to be enough work on optimisation to further enhance the model.

mdp2021•20 minutes ago
AGI on static Neural Networks?!

The list of requirements to have AGI is pretty long, and already that first one inconsistency makes the "hmmmm" bell sound.

Iolaum•about 3 hours ago
Claiming AGI when they don't even have the best performing LLM out is a bit bold :p
testerius•about 2 hours ago
Yeah, that's right. But you know they can say whatever they want :D
eyehurtsme•about 3 hours ago
This sounds like something you say to get your evaluation up as you inch closer towards IPO...
bezko•about 3 hours ago
Sounds like they haven't heard of the Pareto principle.
eyehurtsme•about 3 hours ago
Yep I think they are underestimating the last 20% of work required here, unless they know something we don't...
floro•about 3 hours ago
They know they have to keep lying to relax the inevitable AI bubble crash
xvdvlinux•about 3 hours ago
that's true
eyehurtsme•about 3 hours ago
but even if they do know something we don't why say this publicly? Yes, I get you are trying to boost your evaluation in the ongoing "war" against Anthropic and now XAI but I'm not sure how ready society is for AGI
xvdvlinux•about 3 hours ago
This reminds me of that time Anthropic publicly admitted that Claude was generating "anxiety" patterns within its neural networks and the worst part is that, instead of acting ethically, they chose to directly manipulate "those vectors" to see what would happen and specially what is happening inside those companies could trigger a legal dilemma in the future we (society) are not prepared to deal with that
YeGoblynQueenne•about 3 hours ago
The title is bullshit. Actual title:

>> Inside OpenAI’s Reboot

Plont•about 2 hours ago
You changed the title and made it 93% more misleading. That completely made up number is meaningless. So's "AGI", for that matter.
mdp2021•25 minutes ago
> That completely made up number

That «completely made up number» was said by "Chief research officer Mark Chen", and that is news - curious, and somehow interesting. It is in the article, and probably more notable than 'Inside OpenAI’s Reboot'.

> Amid all this, company leaders believe they have arrived at the cusp of a milestone that could change the course of humanity: the creation of artificial general intelligence, or AGI. OpenAI’s charter defines AGI as “highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work.” Its leaders won’t quite declare they’ve reached that threshold. But they no longer speak about it as a distant abstraction. Chief research officer Mark Chen estimated OpenAI is “80% of the way” to AGI. Brockman said that viewed from two years in the future, this may be remembered as the moment AGI was created. Altman told me that OpenAI was “not quite yet” there, but that by the end of the year the company would have an internal system he would call AGI

The submitter is relatively new here (maybe he has not consulted the guidelines that much yet), but I will give a token of my understanding on why one would replace the original title with the "Oh, by the way, <outlandish statement>".

> for that matter

Nah. Every intellectual dealing with Intelligence should have an idea at least of what is missing ("if that should be a cat where are the ears"). Construct a set difference between an ideal human cognitive system and current LLMs, and you will get an idea approximating AGI.