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dugmartinabout 2 hours ago
I guess Warren’s quote only applies to other people, not him. "It’s like choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics." (https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/14/us/dozens-of-rich-america...)
nlitenedabout 1 hour ago
As I understand, the son is there not to lead the company (Greg Abel is the CEO), but to oversee their family's share in the enterprise.
yuuuabout 1 hour ago
I thought he was giving away 99% of his wealth?
sarjann36 minutes ago
Probably in a charitable trust that will be managed by the family. With the trust owning the shares.
apothegmabout 1 hour ago
Still leaves an absurd amount of wealth to manage.
u1hcw9nx20 minutes ago
He has. His family manages the foundation that owns BRK stock.
bragrabout 1 hour ago
Well he's not dead yet.
mrlonglong42 minutes ago
Can he give me a few million then?
hshdjdjdif28 minutes ago
he is giving 99% to the buffet family foundation ofc
mgfist18 minutes ago
> but to oversee their family's share in the enterprise

Not exactly, he's there to oversee the culture of Berkshire and ensure it's continuity. Buffett is donating all of his wealth (and has already donated $66B), so there isn't a fortune to protect.

Berkshire is an institution of sorts at this point, and requires strong stewardship to prevent enshittification (for lack of a better word).

almostarockstar4 minutes ago
Some better words just off the top of my head:

- to prevent institutional degradation.

- to avoid cultural shift for the worse.

- to keep hold of and nurture that culture.

rayiner8 minutes ago
And this is how you get constitutional monarchy.
Iolaumabout 1 hour ago
While I liked your comment enough to upvote, I then realized that Chairman isn't an operational position. It's more a position where the person can exercise ownership of a company (to put it in layman terms). In your analogy he wouldn't be the athlete, more like the person who gets the winning money (assuming his son also has shares) and chooses the trainer/coach of the athletes (which still needs skill btw).
mcculley32 minutes ago
But we have been told for a long time that Buffett was a very active Chairman.
mgfist16 minutes ago
Warren was CEO until 9 months ago. While yes, he's been chairman for 50 years, he's been an exclusive chairman for only 9 months. The role is ambiguous anyways and it's pretty obvious that someone else won't have the authority Warren has. And his son has been a director for 30 years so it's not like he's a new hire
kristianc20 minutes ago
Whose strategy is explicitly to hold good stocks for a very long time.
seanclaytonabout 1 hour ago
I think Claude can do that right?
datsci_est_2015about 1 hour ago
Maybe the implication is that Warren thinks it’s significantly easier to run a wealth fund than get gold in the Olympics. I would probably agree.
Nemiabout 1 hour ago
The Chairman position is to protect company culture, not make operational decisions.
cube00about 1 hour ago
Not sure any chairman has their ear to the ground to fully understand the culture within their organization.

I never saw our CEO in person, never saw our chairman even on a webinar.

And yes it's not their job to be that low level, but they can't have an idea of the culture either.

mgfist15 minutes ago
Berkshire itself has less than 50 employees, so it's absolutely possible to do this.
ekjhgkejhgk40 minutes ago
"Company culture" at Berkshire Hathway doesn't mean the same as at most companies. BH buys companies and don't interfere with them. So while BH employs upwards of 100k people, the people whose culture the CEO cares about is probably under 100 people.
dzongaabout 1 hour ago
there's nothing wrong with leaving things to your kids to run.

that's the point of the effort after all.

warren as smart as he is was tryna go against the grain of thousands of human evolution. if you train your kids - then most likely they would've values similar to yours. hit or miss but most times a hit.

mcculley28 minutes ago
A lot of rich men, when younger, say that they will not leave so much of the wealth to their children. Then they get older and realize what other old men realized.
detourdog18 minutes ago
These are jobs with titles we are talking about it says nothing about Buffets assets or wills.
willmarch26 minutes ago
Which is what?
wmeredith43 minutes ago
Oh it applies to him. He just doesn’t care.
keiferskiabout 2 hours ago
Buffett has been planning this since at least 2011:

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Warren Buffett has told the CBS News program "60 Minutes" that after he dies, he wants his son to become non-executive chairman of Berkshire Hathaway. Howard Buffett, a farmer with no college degree, would be a good successor, the elder Buffett said, because he understands the values of the company.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/warren-buffett-wants-farmer...

hn9zmdcaouabout 1 hour ago
Sat on a couple of boards and the non exec chair mostly just guards the culture and can fire the CEO. Abel runs the business. That's a very different job from Howard's.
rib3ye18 minutes ago
BennyBallTCabout 1 hour ago
Many people do not know this but he still holds the stock that he first bought as a 13y old. It is now worth 8+ figures!
ricardobayesabout 1 hour ago
Maybe someone can enlighten me, but what's the point of "never selling"? Stocks are not a collectible that you can just look at for fun. Their whole point is to sell for profit, at some time. Maybe it's just me but if you "never cash out", that seems a waste of capital. Or perhaps this is a marketing stunt wealthy people sometimes to? Akin to "I live in a small house".
reticulatesabout 1 hour ago
this is such a funny comment, we are so tech-pilled that we forgot companies traditionally pay dividends and that’s the reason to invest, to share in the profits, not to speculate
nirui15 minutes ago
I wish I saw this comment two years ago while the stock price of one of our local company is still cheap. I sold all my shared before the price slightly tanked, earning just around 14% profit. Now two years later the price has gone up ~100% and they paid dividends twice during the time.

Should have treated it the old-fashion way, not the modern day-trading way.

fhdkweig39 minutes ago
Interestingly enough, Berkshire Hathaway is famous for never paying dividends (except once, I think), and instead use the income to speculate on buying new companies. https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/09/12/berkshire-hathaway...
DanielHB14 minutes ago
Technically you can borrow money against your share, if you think your share gains will be higher than the interest rate you essentially have free money (although, obviously, not risk free). So that is a use for never selling shares.

Also some shares pay dividends.

detourdog28 minutes ago
If it pays a dividend there is income. Buy and hold is a very common approach to investing. Overtime the cost basis of a good stock will decrease. Some could be sold to invest in other things.

Buy and hold is a hedge against inflation as good if goods increases the the stock reflects the relative expansion of the money supply.

rsprinkle39 minutes ago
Because if you don't sell you don't pay taxes. You can instead borrow against the asset and get a credit for the interest you pay. The joys of being filthy rich.
theplumberabout 2 hours ago
So after all no one could be trusted
mrlonglong40 minutes ago
Nepo dynasty.

It'll all burn eventually.

program_whiz7 minutes ago
Yes, it could happen:

1. The next generation has been groomed by Buffet Himself, passing on as much knowledge as he can, but of course, this successor didn't create the fortune, doesn't appreciate it as much, and doesn't have as strong of judgement. However, he is surrounded by the old guard and wise mentors. But as those wither away, he is unable to determine who the worthy successors in his circle should be, slowly the inner circle begins to weaken too.

2. The next successor gets an even less effective set of principles from the first, only knowing off-hand how the money was made in the first place, they are a manager only. They also have no idea how the original people were selected or what makes a good inner circle. Soon it devolves into yes-men and people who seem superficially qualified to manage things.

3. The next successor has little no skills, other than showing up to meetings and going with what advisors say. Because the decision making of the original Buffet mentality has been so diluted, they only know superficial / surface understanding, akin to anyone who read the short books on the subject. They don't know how to do the deep diligence that made BH great. The inner circle is all sycophants, climbers, and clingers. Bad investments, debacles, and poor judgment create losses. Investors begin to panic sell, soon the BH stock crashes in value, losing 90% of the fortune.

And so on... Not hard to see how its like handing off a complex but successful open source project to your progeny instead of the most qualified developers. Pretty soon, its just an unmaintainable mess. They don't understand why things are the way they are, maybe they aren't as good a programmer as great grandpa. They definitely don't know how to hire and keep the best talent that originally built the thing. Pretty soon complexity budget and community good will are exhausted, people move to something newer and more dynamic.

andrewstuart27 minutes ago
I think it would be tedious to be that wealthy. You’d spend all your time managing the money and associated stresses.

A super comfortable life with enough money to get you to 105 years old that all you need.

bell-cotabout 2 hours ago
Best wishes and all. But given Berkshire's scale, and the son's age (71), questions about the next succession plan seem appropriate.

Also, since the NYT says nothing else about the son: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Graham_Buffett In context, his recent involvement in local politics seems rather odd.

roryirvineabout 2 hours ago
Sounds like there's a grandson who's being groomed for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Warren_Buffett

They all seem very similar to the British "new nobility" in the mid-late 19th century, albeit with less syphilis and opium.

mitxelaabout 2 hours ago
Rags to rags in three generations, don't forget. These people are not Warren Buffett and most likely do not share his skill, luck, and psychological investment.
detourdogabout 1 hour ago
The grandson was in FFA (Future Farmers of America) in high school. My guess is the Buffett family values environment was not typical suburban USA.
echoangleabout 2 hours ago
Is grooming the right word here? The guy is 42, grooming to me has a pedophilic connotation.
SirFattyabout 1 hour ago
You should spend less time on 4chan.
bell-cot17 minutes ago
The word has a many meanings - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/groom

Squinting at a [Compact] 1971 Oxford English Dictionary - the pedophilic meaning postdates that edition.

avazhiabout 2 hours ago
This is how groomed is used, yes. The sexually overt connotation is a very recent thing.
sajithdilshanabout 1 hour ago
71 is way past retirement age in many countries. Also didn’t know Warren Buffett is 96 already. Maybe it’s time to pass the torch to someone younger from a different generation
dominotwabout 1 hour ago
Warren Jong-il
kittikittiabout 2 hours ago
People take what he does and says as gospel so knowing he went with monarchy tier nepotism is going to be very annoying.
eviksabout 1 hour ago
Or it could be very beneficial - you don't need to know anything about finance to judge the quality of this particular decision, so it's easier to cast doubt on other gospels
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