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themonsuabout 1 hour ago
I don't know if it's just me, but having built enough websites with AI tools, I'm 99% sure this site has been built with AI. Nothing wrong with that, but the AI look makes me doubt the content is also just put together by AI.
compass_copiumabout 1 hour ago
I dunno, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool, certified AI hater, and even I don't really care if this is AI or not. The cheeses I am aware of match their descriptions well, and if AI let some guy make this in like fifteen minutes so I can read this silly, fun site on the toilet at work, that's fine to me.
themonsuabout 1 hour ago
AI definitely could be used for something worse than categorizing cheese, I just recognize that the moment I see a page is AI-generated, my motivation to consume the content of the page drops.
nomel4 minutes ago
> my motivation to consume the content of the page drops.

I suspect this is a feature backed by an innate brain process related to down-weighting the storage potential of information from untrustworthy people, as a type of resistance to the human brain equivalent of a "poison" attack. For example, some guy that lied to you in the past walks up. Brain releases chemical that reduces "excitement", brain doesn't store said info as readily.

wiremineabout 1 hour ago
I totally agree: This feels like Claude Code created it. It's the new, AI version of "It was clearly built with Bootstrap"

As a cheese lover, I don't care too much. :-)

paganelabout 1 hour ago
As a fellow cheese lover I would have loved for more geographical diversity, especially when it comes to sheep cheese. Ok, it didn't include Romanian telemea (I'm Romanian myself), but it could have at least gone for the Greek feta. Some Anatolian or Middle Eastern varieties would have also helped.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telemea

yokoprimeabout 1 hour ago
Agreed. This looks exactly like something I would get with the prompt "make me av website with the periodic table of cheese"
Freak_NLabout 1 hour ago
Completely wrong about the harder goat milk cheeses.

I can get a variety of goat's cheese at my local cheesemongers, including really old goat so hard it crumbles. So extra-hard goat is not a gap.

I wouldn't call the hard goat rare either, it's available in every larger Dutch supermarket; we're not talking casu martzu level of rare here.

notorandit10 minutes ago
I am thrilled to see how much Italy and France have contributed to world cheese world.

Mozzarella di bufala campana is my no. 1 choice, hands down.

MinimalActionabout 1 hour ago
The idea is cool, but I have become personally allergic to AI generated content and styles. This one is pretty surely built using Claude.
goosejuiceabout 2 hours ago
Curiously missing human milk source. Not that I advise it.

Big fan of the thistle + sheep cheeses. Queso de la Serena and Azeitao are fantastic and very interesting.

Quadrello makes a great grilled cheese.

fcpkabout 2 hours ago
human milk is pretty delicious?
radiorental40 minutes ago
I'm fairly certain at some point very early in your career you thought so! You may have even cried out for it in public!!
globular-toastabout 2 hours ago
It's missing loads of other mammals too, like seals and whales which are often over 60% fat.
eulgroabout 1 hour ago
At what point does milk become oil?
GuB-42about 1 hour ago
Bloomy-Rind Buffalo is actually not rare at all, at least in France and Italy. I can find it in grocery stores.

Look for "Camembert di Bufala". It tastes as described in the website.

Also, while I can't think of hard goat cheese in the same way as Parmigiano-Reggiano, small Crottin-style goat cheese age well in the right conditions. For example, Pelardon can be sold at various stages: fresh, creamy, dry. The very aged kind can exceed a year and looks a bit like a cookie: hard, brownish, much smaller than the fresh kind because it lost most of its moisture. But it doesn't taste at all like a cookie, it is very strong, enough to numb your tongue, you can grate it if you want to.

staredabout 1 hour ago
Memorandum: please do not use the word "periodic" for things which are not periodic

Other suitable choices: chart, classification, taxonomy, visualization, table, map, etc, etc.

wouldbecouldbeabout 1 hour ago
Seems like all dutch cheeses are just grouped under gouda, fine but there are plenty of extra hard, hard, semi-hard, semi goat cheeses. Same with the cow cheeses.

See hard goat cheese example, its delicious https://www.goudsekaasshop.nl/geitenkaas-oud-1-kilo.html?gad...

Insanity30 minutes ago
I really like cheese, but I'm also vegetarian. It would be a useful feature to mark which cheese is vegetarian on this visualization. I know it's not the point of the website, but it'd be a nice bonus :)
loganc234224 minutes ago
Excuse my ignorance, but is there any reason any cheese on here wouldn't be vegetarian?
rkomorn22 minutes ago
Lots of cheese is curdled using rennet, which can come from stomachs of killed calves.
rf1514 minutes ago
If you check wikipedia, you will find that most is coming from GMO'd yeasts and moulds these days.
comrade1234about 1 hour ago
Really surprised to see Sbrinz. I didn't think it ever made it outside Switzerland. It's like Parmesan but objectively better - with sbrinz only organic milk is used while with Parmesan Italian farmers use antibiotics by default. Sbrinz has more milk fat and is aged longer. It's so much better and we use it all the time here.
densekernelabout 2 hours ago
I was so hoping for a period table with elements like Ch, Br, Pa
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Galanweabout 2 hours ago
I am shocked that soft and fresh cheese are conflated in the same category. Both the texture and process are different. Brie is nothing like Ricotta.
lkm0about 1 hour ago
Why put comté and gruyère in two different categories? I just realized that in France the categorization of cheeses is closer to how they are prepared:

- fresh

- soft

- hard but not cooked

- hard and cooked

and it results in entirely different groupings. This will surely make some people unhappy.

bibsthaabout 2 hours ago
> Yak Milk Gruyère

> If a Nepali dairy cooperative partnered with an Alpine affineur, this could be extraordinary — dense, butterscotch-rich, with a savory depth that cow milk can't match.

I believe Himalayan French Cheese is doing this already. https://www.facebook.com/himalayanfrenchcheese/

AgentNewsabout 2 hours ago
We've forgotten the crackers! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nwwu6GpCTBg
jmward01about 1 hour ago
I don't care what tools built this. This site is why I still have faith in the internet.
monoosoabout 1 hour ago
A surprising lack of feta.
haunterabout 2 hours ago
Brie and ricotta in the same category :D

That isntantly invalidates the whole thing

chaidhatabout 2 hours ago
Can't deer make cheese? Why is it specific to Reindeer?
compass_copiumabout 1 hour ago
It's limited to domesticized animals.
aksss43 minutes ago
Have you ever tried milking a moose?
zeristorabout 3 hours ago
Perhaps cheese from Mad Max: Fury Road Mother’s milk.

Theoretically Lions etc, could be milked. As could some whales.

This is left as an exercise for the reader.

dhosekabout 2 hours ago
Quotes from two bits of entertainment come to mind:

Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch:

C: Paper Cramer,

O: no

C: Danish Bimbo,

O: no

C: Czech sheep’s milk,

O: no

C: Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?

O: Not today, sir, no.

And Meet the Parents:

Greg Focker: You can milk just about anything with nipples.

Jack Byrnes: I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?

goosejuiceabout 2 hours ago
When I was behind the cheese case quite awhile ago, we had a customer who misunderstood Wales as Whales. A good laugh was had.

"How do they milk the whales!?"

dhosekabout 2 hours ago
SCUBA gear, obviously.
ivaivanovaabout 2 hours ago
Would love to learn more about how to put this together?
flirabout 2 hours ago
The "Fantasy, but the chemistry works" phrasing in the last box on the first tab makes me suspect chatbot input.

Which is a pity, because I like the exhaustive structure. I just can't trust it. But I guess if I was going to dive into inventing weird cheeses, I wouldn't start with a blog post anyway.

(It would be so easy to generate 50k "Periodic table of <noun>" pages and just throw them into the wild. The public internet really is cooked, isn't it).

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gowldabout 2 hours ago
I don't know why Submitter added the incorrect "periodic" modifier to the title.
ChrisArchitectabout 2 hours ago
Aside: why do all these "Index of.." or "Map of..." dataset compilation sites lately all have the same beige color scheme and font look?
lukeasch21about 2 hours ago
I suspect the surface level answer has something to do with AI, but I would be curious to know the deeper factors at play. Do all popular models gravitate towards the same frameworks and design patterns? As an aside, I'm a little bit suspect of this account having no activity since 2019 and then posting this. Hopefully I'm just overthinking things.
ChrisArchitect8 minutes ago
Thing is I'm quickly developing a reaction/aversion to these vibecoded things soon as I see them load. Like, c'mon. Claude did the heavy lifting, put some of you into the look.
desmondwillowabout 2 hours ago
Claude prefers it.
coke12about 2 hours ago
What about human cheese?
jrm4about 2 hours ago
I like how "soft to hard" makes sense as a gradient, which is often the flaw in new "periodic tables," but, for anyone who might know, does Cow to Reindeer make any sense here as a gradient? I'm guessing not?
chakintoshabout 2 hours ago
I hate how I can now tell a website is made with claude within 2s of looking at it.
yregabout 2 hours ago
It looks good, but since the design is becoming so ubiquitous in the small personal projects space (elsewhere as well, but I think it is most noticeable here) it is also boring.

I've vibecoded a few websites for my own use that look very similar to this. If I designed them myself, I would (in those cases) not put up enough effort so they would be much less refined, but also less boring?

edit: The expand/collapse behaviour of the table cells is quite strange. So the design is not that okay, afterall.

l3x4ur1nabout 2 hours ago
But, if the information is factual, does it matter if it is designed and coded by Claude? I was interested in information, not really the website design.
ungreased067544 minutes ago
The challenge is in knowing how factual the information is. Might be unfair, but in my head people using AI to quickly make a thing are very unlikely to spend a lot of time validating and verifying information. The time saved could be spent making sure it’s legit, but that rarely happens.
dust42about 2 hours ago
That website is so low effort that 2s is actually long to figure it out. Very sure that it is robot upvoted.

Edit: I live in the cheese triangle, France - Switzerland - Italy.

yregabout 2 hours ago
Not everyone votes based on effort. The idea might be interesting to people and provoke discussion no matter how much time OP (?) spent creating it.
globular-toastabout 2 hours ago
Nice. At first I thought there must have a dimension missing as it put things like brie and ricotta together. But then I noticed you can choose different dimensions, and there's more than just one more dimension!

I like cheese but I am concerned about the ethics of it so I eat far less than I could. If you make cheese it's quite shocking how much milk you need to make a single portion of it. I make paneer sometimes and use the whey to make chapati. I wish I could be sure the milk I consume doesn't harm the cows. I also know they take the calves away and kill them too.

croisillonabout 2 hours ago
not a periodic map ; sounded promising but the text is just AI slop