ES version is available. Content is displayed in original English for accuracy.
Advertisement
Advertisement
⚡ Community Insights
Discussion Sentiment
59% Positive
Analyzed from 693 words in the discussion.
Trending Topics
#model#grok#more#musk#xai#don#ipo#big#build#coding
Discussion (15 Comments)Read Original on HackerNews
Model intelligence is great, but more often than not I found my issue is not that I would like 5/10% more intelligence, I'm already not even using the highest mode of thinking on most of my queries, and very important queries are better served by asking different model and ask another one to compare and help me decide.
My "big" issues are mostly centered about context loss and how they explode in flight when that happens sometimes without you or them noticing.
I don't know, depends on everyone's usage I guess, and 256k is not THAT shabby, but that's how I feel about it.
I would anticipate we will see aggressive improvements / new models at least as the Cursor integration comes together, and a hard push on price and quality over the next few months. Elon is definitely eyeing revenues from the coding LLM market, and has a lot of structural power, since the competitors are running on his hardware right now.
I tried it on a couple of projects and was (pleasantly?) surprised how good it was. I have no doubt in my mind that spacex needs to be broken up before they grow too big because grok build is going to be the future coding model of choice
This is a BIG statement, especially considering current benchmark scores, can you expand more, why do you think so?
[0] https://arena.ai/leaderboard
Google raised the same amount as SpaceX IPO at the same time, it just didn't get as much attention outside of financial and tech press
https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/03/alphabets-record-breaking-...
The other big players (MS/Goog/Meta) have solid businesses already and both OpenAi and Anthropic are IPO'ing soon.
Musk over bought compute and is renting it out, many of the co-founders of XAI have quit, so doubt they will dominate any time soon.
Buying compute that others pay a premium for is not over-buying. Note that $85b GOOG raise is for … building compute they don’t have.
The SX bond issuance reportedly has $90b in demand; they took $25b.
With all of those in mind, it might be worth updating your take on the relative capital power. I’d term it significant. Knowing Musk he will be investing aggressively where he thinks matters over the next few years.
They also need it to at least show that in theory they can put a datacenter into space (which is stupid because it would take 300 starship flights to bring up their small colossus dc into space which is only 200MwH).
They also increase the price of Starlink, have to shell out money for cursor.
They overbuyed because it clearly shows that Grok is not frontier or people don't like to use it for other reasons.
Of course Musk has to invest, if what he thinks matters and is susccessful is another story like Cybertruck or his Datacenter idea or his dysonsphere 'idea'.
But no indication that XAI will lead the field any time soon.
However, their "overbuying" of compute means they can now rent it out for $2.32B/month.
That seems like solid business to me, and raises the question whether your claim of xAI needing 'ongoing enormous funding' is accurate.
Prior to IPO they want to show the best growth numbers possible, so how long they continue with the deal post IPO remains to be seen.
This looks like a worse Deepseek V4 pro. Costs more, dumber, slower and more verbose than most modern Chinese releases.
Seeing how those Chinese releases are in various states of open source, I would hope a competitor could at least match them.