Sony will no longer produce discs for PlayStation games starting in January 2028

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lelandfe•about 2 hours ago

To illustrate why this is stupid, I will furnish two links to purchase Dark Souls 3 (PS4, 2016)

Ebay, to buy: $11 + shipping[0]

PS Store, to rent: $60[1]

[0] https://www.ebay.com/itm/298370753624

[1] https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/dark-souls-iii/

giwook•about 2 hours ago

You've illustrated exactly why Sony is getting rid of physical media.

Money.

exitnode•about 2 hours ago

It's sadly not stupid from their perspective

nottorp•about 2 hours ago

You don't even need to go used. Discs constantly drop in price even new.

asimovDev•about 2 hours ago

in europe it's often cheaper to buy a game new in box from the retailer than from the PS Store. Not for long maybe. I will mourn the loss of physical games as they are such a big part of console experience

nottorp•about 2 hours ago

I am in Europe but I just don't do launch prices on any platform or delivery form so I didn't notice that.

Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/606/

ProllyInfamous•15 minutes ago

I have a PS4pro; technically I also already own a PS5 (kid-brother arrangement; not currently in my possession). When he gets his PS6, I'll get my PS5 back... then still keep the PS4 (always been offline: RDR2; GTA5; &c).

If Sony doesn't offer GTA6 on disc, offline: I'll sell the PS5, too. I just got a 5070Ti, so it's probably back to PC-MasterRace I'll go...

Reasons like this [Sony's 2028 disc-stop] are exactly why I won't be purchasing a PS6. At least (in Sony's defense) they're telling us oldtimers about this now, as opposed to on the day of [stopping disc retail sales].

accrual•about 2 hours ago

> Sony's announcement follows Rockstar's announcement that Grand Theft Auto 6 will come with a download code in a box rather than a physical disc. It's a move that most notably stamps out second-hand reselling of a game.

This is the big point for me. If one buys a digital PlayStation game there's virtually no easy way to transfer it to another owner or sell it like one could do in past console generations. There will always be modding and ways to play game dumps, but it limits that level of "ownership" to those technically inclined to make it work.

alightsoul•about 2 hours ago

they weren't happy about people reselling their games for 5 dollars each, when they could charge 75 dollars to each of those people instead

seanalltogether•about 2 hours ago

I've reached an age where I don't actually buy games anymore, I just load up my wishlist with games and between Christmas, birthday and fathers day I get all the games I will care to play for the year. My wife, parents, extended family likes being able to buy me a physical gift, wrap it, and hand it to me. I understand that this is just getting rid of the disc and keeping the box, but pretty soon there's gonna be no box either, and I know my wife will hate the idea of just handing me a gift card on special days. I just hate how all physical products are evaporating.

pryelluw•about 3 hours ago

Guess I’m throwing my PS5 out the window and going to PC. This war on physical media is ridiculous. Pretty soon they’re going to require us to buy the console but rent the controllers for the very low price of $79.99 a month.

functionmouse•about 2 hours ago

steam games don't have discs either

the real problem here isn't lack of plastic circles

callamdelaney•about 2 hours ago

Valve have shown themselves to be reasonably trustworthy unlike say, Sony and Microsoft. If there are no disks then there is no point in consoles in my view, they're just worse computers.

mghackerlady•about 2 hours ago

plus, nothings stopping you from distributing a physical PC game. Heck, iirc steam still supports it. Even if it didn't, you could still buy a physical PC anyway since they can just have an exe, flatpak/snap/appimage, or dmg

asimovDev•about 2 hours ago

On PC you can fight this by buying from GOG DRM-free digital storefront or the second more sinister option

gdulli•about 2 hours ago

Steam normalized the loss of resale rights on PC long before the consoles caught up. Younger people don't even realize it's a right that prior generations gave up.

z0r•about 2 hours ago

Steam has existed for an eternity compared to any console specific game store. It's not great that you can't resell what you have on Steam, but at least you get to 'keep' it.

alightsoul•about 2 hours ago

and yet, Steam is seen as the superior service that deserves to keep their monopoly.

nottorp•about 2 hours ago

The thing with Steam is that it's more convenient than piratebay, but for the collector in you, piratebay is still there for insurance.

Not to mention whatever's available on GoG where you don't even need a crack to make backups.

With Sony you have no insurance.

gdulli•33 minutes ago

Yes, and it's a tragedy that people have given up so much for the shallow convenience of having a shiny launcher and not having to figure out clicking on setup.exe.

callamdelaney•about 2 hours ago

Steam isn't a monopoly, it's just a good service. Why would I use a shittier one created by, generally, extremely greedy and woke corporations?

kaishin•about 2 hours ago

To solve what exactly? Sure you will punish Sony but that won't bring optical media back. We need to accept and move on with the times.

Nekorosu•about 2 hours ago

It is still possible to actually buy PC games, not rent them.

r0ckarong•about 2 hours ago

Most games with retail copies drop in price soon after the hype window is over. They stay full launch retail price in the PSN store unless there is a "sale". Anti-consumerism at its finest.

gdulli•about 2 hours ago

I wonder if that's because there's a downward price pressure on physical inventory because it needs to get liquidated to free up physical space for new inventory.

toast0•about 1 hour ago

That's certainly a factor, especially if demand was less than predicted, stores don't want to hold on to stock that's not selling, distributors and manufacturers don't want it returned. Better for everyone to reduce the price and sell the product.

Insanity•about 2 hours ago

Haven’t bought a physical game in at least 15 years (because of Steam). I do wonder how many people still buy physical copies these days.

Not sure what the sales are like on PS but at least on Steam you can find great deals for the digital copies as well. (You lose the reselling though)

petetnt•about 2 hours ago

Unlike Steam keys, there are no ways to distribute Playstation keys outside of Playstation platform. By removing retailers and second hand markets, what exactly would make Sony or any other publishers to continue offering any deep discounts on their products on a closed platform, especially when their biggest competitor Xbox has dropped the ball heavily.

crumb1e•about 1 hour ago

I constantly rotate physical games for my PS5.

I'm in the UK, and CeX is a great shop to trade in a game for store credit once I'm finished with it, then pickup whatever I want to play next. Most of the time I can completely cover the cost of the next game with the credit received from the trade, or use some store credit leftover from a previous visit!

asimovDev•about 2 hours ago

When a Sony studio Insomniac Games were hacked and a lot of internal documents were leaked, there were statistics for Sony's first party titles and their sales stats and what the split was between physical and digital sales[0] and for some of the titles, they sold mostly physical compared to digital. Apologies for poor quality, couldn't find a better image

[0] - https://imgur.com/lDhRmUh

rrreese•about 2 hours ago

Due to the steam sales and deep discounting its easy to buy games on steam for much cheaper then the consoles. For console where a game may be £60 for several years, buying physical means you can resell. For anyone with a budget, it makes a huge difference on how many games you can play.

thimabi•about 2 hours ago

In a few years Sony executives will be wondering why a portion of their consumer base decided to prioritize other forms of entertainment. I can speak for myself in that I’ve never upgraded past the PS3, and I feel no regrets about it.

mghackerlady•about 2 hours ago

I personally see no reason to buy anything more than a PS4. I have a PS3 and it plays all the same kinds of games I'd want to play on a 4 or 5, with similar graphical fidelity. I have a 4, but only really have used it to play a remake of a game I can already play on the 3. I also have a vita which is used for indie games since that thing has nearly every indie game you'd ever want to play available (either officially or via homebrew)

tacticalturtle•about 2 hours ago

At this point it’s a pretty small portion.

Last quarter 85% of all game sales were digital.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-just-reported-a-new-r...

techwizrd•about 2 hours ago

They've also been pushing digital-only PS5s and PS5 Pro so there are fewer reasons to get a disk if you have no disk drive. They have created the problem that they are "solving."

tacticalturtle•about 1 hour ago

Which you can explicitly buy a disk drive for, if that’s important to you:

https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-accessories/disc-dr...

They actually did a good job giving the consumer choices - it’s just customers didn’t choose physical media.

butlike•about 2 hours ago

PS4 is a great system, but I feel it may be my last Sony console. Steam Deck/Steam Machine will probably become the king of the household, as I don't see video games ever really leaving my life.

techwizrd•about 2 hours ago

The PS5 is great. We have a PS5 and PS5 Pro, both with disk drives (internal or external). But I really hate this policy. My brother comes over regularly to watch my pets, and he can simply bring a couple of his PS5 games over and play them rather than rebuying them and digitally downloading them. This breaks the in-person social aspect of gaming and game sharing that we've become accustomed to for decades.

nzach•about 1 hour ago

I really don't understand their thinking here. Sure they want more money, I get that.

But 'physical media' is one of the reasons why a lot o people make a distinction between PC and console games. Removing this will make it easier for consumers to compare a PS5 to a Steam machine, and I don't think that is a good thing for Sony.

neogodless•about 2 hours ago

Previously:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48745456 Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation (playstation.com)

1 hour ago, 32+ comments

paolfs•about 2 hours ago

Imho this is no issue, as long as the game is playable after download without some kind of server or account.

The moment you need an account or server to play you don't own the game. I think governments should step in here. They must force stores to use words like rent or lease instead of buy. That way it is way more clear where you are going to spend money on.

jonhohle•about 2 hours ago

How do you purchase or download a game without a server or account?

doubled112•about 1 hour ago

I think they mean to say that it is fine as long as you no longer need a server or account once it is downloaded from their server.

You would be allowed to keep a backup, play the backup, transfer the backup, etc.

simonh•about 2 hours ago

purchase /= run

techdmn•about 2 hours ago

Never been happier that I've turned into a retro-gamer. This is more the result of being old than a principled stance, but never the less. Increasingly I don't view myself as actually owning anything that connects to the internet. Minecraft is delightful on my disconnected Xbox-360, thanks. Nobody can break it by forcing an update or shutting down a server.

akmarinov•about 1 hour ago

Since they're also shutting down the PS3 and Vita stores - https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta...

That means that when the PS8 rolls around, any games you've bought for the digital-only PS6 will be unplayable, so think about that when you buy digital games when that (and for PS5 now) comes through.

MBCook•about 2 hours ago

This was bound to happen. I’ve long suspected the #1 reason physical games exist was to placate a few big retailers like Best Buy and Walmart and Target so they’d continue to carry the console.

Clearly that’s no longer necessary. Download-only retail boxes or gift cards or whatever are enough.

I know some people really care about physical releases, but I think the writing has been on the wall for years that this was coming.

nottorp•about 2 hours ago

The Sony that has just proved you can't trust them to maintain access to the digital content they "sold" you right?

akmarinov•about 1 hour ago

This comes a week after Sony deleted 500+ movies from people that legally bought them

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/sony-removing-over-50...

Who's to say that the games you buy for the PS6 will be playable in a couple of years?

asimovDev•about 2 hours ago

https://www.doesitplay.org

I guess this resource is relevant to the topic at hand. It lists games and whether you can play and complete them fully from disc without an internet connection

NDlurker•about 1 hour ago

And this is coming right after the news about how Sony will be deleting movies from people's accounts.

callamdelaney•about 2 hours ago

I will no longer buy playstations starting now

alecco•about 2 hours ago

Dupe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48745456

jmclnx•30 minutes ago

Didn't Sony get in trouble for deleting movies from devices ? I guess they want to do the same for their console too.

So people should just stop buying games that are not on phyical media. THat will get Sony to change fast.

snarfy•about 2 hours ago

If they are going digital only then they are competing with Steam. They will lose.

avaer•about 2 hours ago

They aren't competing with Steam. The console market is a closed cabal where console makers sell the machine at a loss and make up for it with locked down software where publishers pay a significant proportion of the sales to the console maker, who controls supply and dealflow with private contracts.

They might lose, but it's nothing like PC.

dude250711•about 2 hours ago

Last step is for them to say that due to rising components' cost, they are transitioning to rent-only model for consoles.

This way you will finally own nothing except for maybe console rent arrears.

brendoelfrendo•about 2 hours ago

I don't buy every game on a physical disc—I don't see the point for live service games, for example—but I do have a fairly large collection of physical PS5 games because I like that assurance that I can continue to play that game forever. I guess what we see here is that after 2028 I have no reason to own a PlayStation ever again.

ghusto•about 2 hours ago

> As consumer preferences and the broader entertainment industry continue to shift away from physical discs to digital

_Goddamn citation needed!_

jackgavigan•about 2 hours ago

"You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy."