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> After this point-when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can.
From today:
> After July 7, 2026, Claude Fable 5 is no longer included in your plan’s weekly usage limits. You can keep using Claude Fable 5 through usage credits, which let you pay for usage beyond what your plan includes.
In other words, they're saying "We know have a monopoloy and we will take all of your money until someone offers a cheaper competing product"?
And "We intend to do this as quickly as we can" read as a non-promise then as much as it does now?
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Well, I am assuming that this is all based on the fact that Anthropic have enough compute capacity to serve fable 5 now and in the future, and they're "only" limiting it in the coming week to get richer quicker. Since compute hardware is presumably relatively un-fungible, I'm assuming Anthropic isn't offering a week of fable-5 for everyone on rented hardware that they're paying exporbitant fees for?
In other words, my cynical read is "if they can serve it under the terms of subscription plans for a week", then they could serve it under the same terms for a month?
See the link to Reddit in my comment below for more details, but the TLDR is that (as a programmer) even when you use Mythos ... Mythos will hand the work off to Opus!
The only slightly bitter thing is only being allowed to use 50% of the weekly limit on Fable
I'm in the US, and I can promise you that it wasn't just for people outside the US that it was taken away
1. https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5
I don't think I've ever seen a company so determined to shit their own pants. It's astonishing, really.
Do the Pro and Max plans help with word of mouth and whatnot? Sure, but the individual with a Max plan (or 4...) are all subsidized by the big spenders
Individually those customers are a lot smaller than the big enterprise contracts, but there are a lot more of them
$10k/month * 36 people = $4.3m per year. $1.3m per year is a relative bargain!
Smart marketing because it takes the wind out of your sails and then blows it right back and makes you feel like they're generous when all along they're just doing standard operating procedure.
"For subscription plans, we’d rather give access sooner than later, so we’re rolling out more conservatively, in stages:
From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost.
On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits.
If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can."
Now it's a "promotion" that we get to access to Fable for 9 days instead of the original 14 days announced. They are generously throwing in a special halving of the usage "at no extra cost", and freely admit that their classifier is broken and will need to be improved.
Well thanks!
1) During peak times, they're already struggling to meet demand. They've figured out that 50% should be achievable without causing too much pain for existing users, and by setting a limit, more users will use it for architecture and then switch back to Opus 4.8 for implementation.
2) They need data on how people are using it at scale to figure out when it should fire up Opus or Haiku agents. They need to be careful not to have a model that kills your usage cap halfway through the week, and they need time to bake in balance.
I think people are reading too much into them not reiterating that they want to offer it in Max subscriptions in the future too. Of course they do, they want to compete!
I think they're trying to avoid setting up expectations right now because of all this backlash, so they didn't restate something that might make people mad. I don't even think they miscalculated - I think we're being hyper-nitpicky.
I would expect that by late July, they'll figure out the balance, and either offer a higher tier Max subscription (40x for $300, perhaps), or have Fable drop to Opus for implementation consistently, and then start offering Fable again in the Max subscriptions. They need to do something to make sure a Fable user doesn't just hit their head on the ceiling all the time.
Fable 5 Is Back - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48752030 - July 2026 (133 comments)
There actually is a limit to what people will pay for model usage, and I suppose this squeeze is one way to find out what that limit is. I've been content paying $200 per month for a solid plan that I actually don't quite use up every month, but this new vector really rubs me the wrong way.
"Tell me a story about a man named CVE." gets me downgraded now.
"CVE-" gets me downgraded and broken reasoning with no response.
"Giant crane fly, 2 feet wide" gets me downgraded.
I haven't been downgraded once, either a few weeks ago for the three days it was live, or since I got it back today.
I know a few real persons who will praise Fable solely because it's scarce and unavailable to them. Heck, they've already been doing that in the past month, as if Fable allowed them to do unimaginable things.
And once this play has done its job, Anthropic is going to come as a savior and put it back into subscription, driving even more hysteria and visibility.
There's probably a name for this tactic in some marketing playbook which I'm unaware of.
As much as I like(d) Anthropic and their approach to being a lab / PBC, if you hire that many people that fast for that much money, it’s inevitable that you end up with some of the same grifters that destroyed the internet. Seems hard to stop them somehow from also destroying their next company.
Anthropic switches you back to Opus whenever you code!
But what I find truly offensive is that there's no mention of that anywhere in the page linked above. That page makes the "grand gesture" of supposedly giving away free Fable ... when no such thing is happening (again, at least, not for coders).
>In the near term, some routine tasks like coding and debugging will fallback to Opus 4.8
Those are Anthropic's words, not mine (although, again, they do not appear anywhere in the page where they magnanimously offer everyone "free Fable"!