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LocalHabout 2 hours ago
Massive violation of rights. Flock should be shut down and their c-suite sent to prison. The cops that made this massive series of blunders should also be fired and blackballed nation-wide.
b112about 1 hour ago
The cops in this article didn't do a single thing wrong.

Their department did, maybe. Or the city/state. But reading the article, someone entered the plate wrong 1000s of miles away, and secondarily flock reads some plates wrongly.

However, the individual police were told "use this tool" and the tool said "spotted stolen car". They then showed up, and did their job.

I would blame the city or department head who signed with flock. I would blame flock. I wouldn't blame the individual officers which were just doing their job.

kelnosabout 1 hour ago
Bullshit. Cops aren't machines who just follow the orders of a computer.

Anyone who has the power to do violence to or imprison someone has a responsibility to get these things right.

wil421about 2 hours ago
What happens when it’s Judge Dredd AI robot here to sentence you based on automated systems and AI?

To the outer colonies for this one.

erelongabout 2 hours ago
not justifying it but I imagine even pre-Flock there were false positives, I guess a question would be if the false positives are multiplying or if they would be better than the previous system of false positives
gruezabout 2 hours ago
Sounds like the actual issue is that the false positive rate is so low that cops get complacent. If in the past all you had were vague descriptions like "grey F150" then police would be far more skeptical if they saw a "match". However if they're using ANPRs and it's reliable day after day, you stop questioning the system. After all, it never makes a mistake, right?
AngryData31 minutes ago
Or they don't have to care about mistakes because most people are too poor to pursue a case against local cops and courts or flock. Any excuse to pull someone over will be used by police to extort people because thats how cops and courts fund themselves, they will always fall back on "it was procedure, therefore we hold no liability." There are more than enough victimless crimes on the books with high monetary penalties to just drag net citizens and profit.
gruez22 minutes ago
>Any excuse to pull someone over will be used by police to extort people because thats how cops and courts fund themselves, they will always fall back on "it was procedure, therefore we hold no liability." There are more than enough victimless crimes on the books with high monetary penalties to just drag net citizens and profit.

That might make sense for speed traps or whatever, but how does brutalizing people with suspected stolen vehicles help "cops ... fund themselves"? Civil forfeiture doesn't even apply in this case because by definition that car has a rightful owner, so they won't even be able to keep it.