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sixhobbitsabout 2 hours ago
non-english, twitter, and probably LLM-generated, and still on the front page. So either people really care about this issue or it's artificial as usually any one of those is enough to get ignored or flagged

Anyway here's an English translation for ease (google translate)

Wild West @dziki_zachod The EU is simultaneously working on five regulations that will change how we live, drive, and use the internet.

Here's what's currently in the legislative process—and what's already in effect.

Advanced Driving Cameras (ADDW)—in force since July 7, 2026. Every new car must have a camera tracking the driver's face and eyes. Officially for safety. The data is supposed to stay in the car. For now.

Active Speed Limiting (ISA)—in force since July 2024. New cars automatically limit their speed to the limit. It can be disabled, but the system resets itself.

Chat Control—still under negotiation. The project involves mass scanning of private messages for illegal content. Criticized by cybersecurity experts as the end of end-to-end encryption. Blocked several times, it's back in new versions.

Online KYC/age verification – just announced. Von der Leyen presented an app requiring ID to access certain platforms. The Vice-President of the European Commission announced that VPNs will also be regulated to ensure this cannot be bypassed.

Hate speech as an EU crime – The Commission wants to expand the list of EU crimes to include hate speech. Critics warn that the definition is so broad that it could criminalize simple political criticism.

Each of these regulations officially has a noble purpose. Together, they paint a picture of a Europe where you can say anything you say in front of a camera – and someone records it. 10:00 AM · Jul 8, 2026 32.6KViews

goobatroobaabout 1 hour ago
Obviously a five line summary loses a lot of nuance. E.g. these legislative files are at very different stages of discussion , some not even proposed formally and others close to completion. It reminds me a bit of the famous UK tabloid headlines that the EU would prohibit hairdressers from wearing jewellery (which was a position paper by a small hairdresser union, never an EU legislative idea).

Let's see when these things are actually proposed and can be analysed. E.g. I do t see a problem with an automatic speed limit - anyone using electric cars will already do this anyway. E.g. driving in the Netherlands or Belgium (everyone is at 100-125kmh) is a lot more comfortable and safe than in Germany (where a motorway speed can vary from 100 to 190 or sometimes much beyond). If you want to feel speed go to dedicated racetracks and don't threaten my kids lives.

cge19 minutes ago
One of the significant problems with systems like automatic speed limits (and lane following, etc) is that they need to work well, and reliably, in all conditions, or they end up posing safety risks themselves. Potentially worse, the implementations often make assumptions based on affluent, developed, modern urban areas, while being implemented everywhere, and so end up being something between a nuisance and a safety hazard in less developed, less modern, and more rural areas.

Driving a rather new car with speeding warnings around the deep French countryside a few weeks ago, for example, when on a motorway, with a speed limit of 130 km/h, the car would repeatedly detect the speed limits on exits, which could mean the car suddenly thinking that the speed limit was 50 km/h until the next 130 km/h reminder sign. Fortunately, the car simply beeped incessantly, and so only posed a minor safety risk in being distracting (the beep could be turned off temporarily, but the override was unreliable). Off the motorway, small roads around ancient towns were often designed with the expectation that drivers would need to frequently drive across lines, so the lane-departure mechanism would frequently engage to try to push the car off the road, or into oncoming traffic (which might be a tractor itself significantly over the middle line out of necessity), though it was fortunately weak enough that it was easy to counteract. And on winding, tight streets in towns, the car's speed limit detection was often significantly wrong, in both directions.

A car, in the middle of 130 km/h traffic, that decides it needs to abruptly slow down to 50 km/h, ending up as essentially a road hazard with cars that could run into it at 80 km/h relative speed, is probably also a serious safety threat, and a system that did that would also threaten your kids' lives.

One might hope that consistent implementation of these sorts of systems would force a realization that they need to work in all places, and that the infrastructure in those places needs to be able to support them reliably. But what I see more often (not just in the EU; the US has similar problems) is that the systems work quite well in areas that 'matter', little is done to improve them in areas that don't (to be fair, sometimes local governments are at least partially at fault for this), the people who live in those areas are forced to deal with systems that seem harmful to them, and the result is an increasing political discontent.

243423443about 2 hours ago
Thanks for the translation.

I am actually very much in favor of Active Speed Limiting. From a safety perspective and in order to make driving less attractive in comparison to public transportation and other alternatives.

lifestyleguru41 minutes ago
Poles are trying to divert attention from catastrophic state of healthcare in their country:) The system is on speedrun to clone the American one. Medical doctors earn the highest salaries in Europe, while patients are receiving one of the worst services on the continent. It's as if they wanted to annihilate the lower classes of society or something.
like_any_otherabout 1 hour ago
> non-english

Well, Poland is part of the EU.

> probably LLM-generated

What makes you say that? I admit I can't spot LLMisms in Polish, but the translation seems perfectly reasonable.

lifestyleguruabout 1 hour ago
Hate speech laws really scare me. They're used every time from a position of power - medical doctors, lawyers, politicians, celebrities, executives, the rich. When someone even points out in public their incompetence, corruption, cronyism or something even worse.

When regular person attempts to refer the hate speech, stalking, or bullying the police tells them to beat it and file a civic lawsuit.

rimworldabout 1 hour ago
id say the boot is about 1-inch away from your face