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mikestew•about 9 hours ago
So, one example of a politician losing their job at the end of the article? Not exactly making the case for the headline, considering number of words in the article.

And the issue at hand, of course, is really data centers and not AI.

jaredcwhite•about 8 hours ago
It's about data centers AND it's about AI.
add-sub-mul-div•about 8 hours ago
Data centers were a niche or nonexistent issue before the dislike of AI became mainstream.
UqWBcuFx6NV4r•about 9 hours ago
This is hilarious delusion. Not only does America apparently hate AI (lol), but for the first time in a very long time, the American public has apparently managed to successfully mobilise and oust politicians! Plural! and a large enough number to be noteworthy!
handoflixue•about 8 hours ago
Uh, top comment says "exactly one" so where are you getting "enough to be noteworthy"?
iwontberude•about 4 hours ago
You missed the sarcasm I think
thot_experiment•about 9 hours ago
All my homies hate AI.

It has really given us a perfect emblem of the worst capitalism has to offer, I'm not holding my breath but perhaps this backlash will precipitate further change to drive us toward a flatter economy and a society that does a better job of rejecting exploitation and concentration of power. One that more effectively serves humanity and allows us to find a much better global optimum.

UqWBcuFx6NV4r•about 9 hours ago
Never ever have I seen a comment so hastily released from its can after the author read nothing beyond the title.
HeyLaughingBoy•about 7 hours ago
That's an escape, not a release.
uncivilized•about 9 hours ago
You must be new here.
dyauspitr•about 9 hours ago
I’m all for no concentration of power but not at the expense of technological progress.

Are you seeing the physical AI that has just begun to explode over the last few months? Robots can now literally reliably put your clothes into a washing machine, start it, move them to the dryer, pull them out and fold and stack all of them. They can almost reliably rinse and put your dishes into the dishwasher, start it, then pull them out and put them away into your cabinets. This is all paradigm shifting stuff, and I’ll resist any attempt to stall progress in that space so some people can have a job for a few more months.

apothegm•about 8 hours ago
A robot that washes your clothes isn’t much use if you can’t afford clothes (let alone the robot) because there’s not enough work left that they can’t do to employ more than a minuscule fraction of us humans and the techno-feudal barons have no interest in distributing let alone redistributing the proceeds.
dyauspitr•about 8 hours ago
The US isn’t the only player in the game. In fact, it may not even be the main player in a couple of years. There are people (mainly China) that will do this irrespective of whatever Luddite crap you pull right now. This is happening whether you like it or not. If everyone loses their job, there is going to be something that works itself out. This is not a reason to shit the bed and play dead weight on technological progress.
thot_experiment•about 9 hours ago
A. That's not a useful thing I care about nor should you (in the context of the current state of things) and B. I don't oppose AI as a concept. I oppose it as an emblem of the failure of our systems of governance to serve the common man. I oppose the implementation that people colloquially mean when they say AI, I have nothing against tensor blobs and I more or less wish intellectual property was abolished.
dyauspitr•about 9 hours ago
A robot that does all of the chores in your house and outside your house is not useful? I’m going to stop reading right there.
datadrivenangel•about 7 hours ago
What brand of robot is this and how how reliable is it?
dyauspitr•about 4 hours ago
Sunday Robotics have pretty much solved folding clothes. It will correctly fold clothes greater than 99% of the time according to them. They have a 3 hour stream of it just folding clothes on their YouTube channel.
dyauspitr•about 9 hours ago
Sounds like wishful thinking. Most Americans I know are furiously using LLMs in every aspect of their lives, tradesmen included.
mey•about 9 hours ago
Two things can be true. The data centers can be driving up electricity costs, causing pollution, planning issues, and computer hardware shortages _and_ people can be finding the tools useful.
dyauspitr•about 9 hours ago
Then mandate clean energy generation for data centers, not some outright ban bullshit.
foul•about 2 hours ago
Data centers should at least be autonomous for energy generation and cooling systems, in the current utilities landscape in US the energy company dictates price mostly by demand and Big Tech will always have enough money to pay, the water company will have to clean more freshwater and in dry season will never cut off the datacenter: these are (summing that with no convenience whatsoever for nearby towns, few to no people in those communities will work for the datacenter. Maybe they pay good taxes to towns but it isn't a given either) in my opinion very solid elements to view a datacenter as a menace.
margalabargala•about 6 hours ago
The cleanliness of the energy consumed is not the reason why it is to the detriment of a community to have a data center nearby.

That said banning it across the whole state, in a state with ample industrial parks and water resources, does seem excessive.

sterlind•about 9 hours ago
I don't think Americans hate AI, but many of us really hate how we're being treated like horses destined for the glue factory during the rise of the automobile.