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cwmoore•about 3 hours ago
Not unrelated, this kind of information augments all kinda of law enforcement, greatly increasing the lifetime consequences of convictions, though sentencing penalties have remained the same.

Last century, a year in jail ended after the year. Now it is still there for every job application, lease, and loan you might take out in life.

The justice industry benefits with easy information, punishments are amplified and permanent, but crimes keep happening.

Let’s reconsider whether our medieval system benefits society or simply controls and exploits it.

FireBeyond•10 minutes ago
> Last century, a year in jail ended after the year. Now it is still there for every job application, lease, and loan you might take out in life.

My state touts that some felonies are eligible for vacation. One of the criteria is "The person has reached 120 years of age."

CodeWriter23•about 2 hours ago
Nah, we had the "Have you been convicted of a felony in the past 7 years" job application question in the 80's. And background checks were accessible.
cestith•about 2 hours ago
A year in jail doesn’t necessarily mean a felony conviction.

https://lawful.com/articles/misdemeanors

CodeWriter23•about 2 hours ago
Lefties didn't have a problem with this when the intent was tracking ammo purchases.
BugsJustFindMe•6 minutes ago
Ignoring for the moment the fact that things which are obvious weapons and things which are not obvious weapons pose different fundamental risks to society and that therefore it's a big stretch to put them into the same category, none of these so-called "lefties" would want ICE to have that information.
jumpinjack710•about 1 hour ago
Nor did they care about establishing vaccine card check points throughout civil society. Imagine if we got to do citizenship checks at bars and restaurants and doctor's offices.
FireBeyond•3 minutes ago
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jumpinjack710•about 1 hour ago
It's a bummer knowing communists are frothing at the mouth to use this against Christians and Gun Owners and Business Owners and other groups they abhore, but it seems like it's good as long as this stays directed against illegals.
Recurecur•about 3 hours ago
Good! Illegal aliens shouldn’t get credit from any source. They’re bad risks, especially if they get deported…
JohnFen•about 2 hours ago
You don't have to be an illegal alien to want to keep ICE/Border patrol from knowing things about you. They're a threat to everybody.
Recurecur•about 2 hours ago
They’re a threat to those fearing deportation or arrest for criminal activity. If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.

I’m a lot more worried about the giant NSA data centers like the one in Utah, funded under prior administrations. Those are definitely warehousing wide-ranging data about all Americans (and others), harvested right off the Internet backbone…

JohnFen•19 minutes ago
> If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.

From what I've seen, this just isn't true. Anyone who isn't visibly licking their boots is at risk.

tekla•about 2 hours ago
Oh yes, we definitely don't have news or straight up video of people who are regular citizens getting killed for no reason by ICE or even non-citizens getting effectively executed without trial.