Show HN: Chinese are offering Claude/Codex offers 90% off

xxiaoxumz11 about 5 hours ago 3 comments

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Chinese resellers are offering *Claude and Codex API access at up to 90% discounts* compared with Anthropic and OpenAI’s official API pricing.

I’ve heard that some of them use open-source projects like *Sub2API* to achieve this. Their business model appears to involve purchasing subscription plans in bulk and converting them into API access.

I’ve found several providers, such as *ddshub.cc, yunwu.api, and others*.

What are your thoughts on this business model and its potential risks or sustainability?

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JPLeRouzic•about 2 hours ago

Do they cache results so users can receive already generated answers?

If the resellers cache results, how it is done? I am aware it's possible with a KV cache, but those resellers do not have access to Claude's KV memory?

If they do not cache results, how does this work?

Good4boothee•about 2 hours ago

Check previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49058993

My personal guess is some of those "providers" use inputs/outputs for training "open"weight models.

iwontberude•about 2 hours ago

Nope, it’s just simple arbitrage. All of the subscription tiers offer 5-10x better prices than metered api fees. They use subscription to hook people and get them desperate enough to pay for ad-hoc generation outside of their subscription to make a profit. The economics of Claude do not work unless a significant % of subscribers convert to standard metered API use. They are trying any trick under the sun to make this happen.