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dcrazyabout 1 hour ago
SFO has had private airport security (Covenant) instead of TSA since 9/11. It’s been great.
Brendinoooabout 1 hour ago
From the article:

>Covenant Aviation Security was another early winner, getting $19 million for unspecified airport security services in 2005. Since then, it’s gotten an ever-increasing amount, including $773 million in 2021 to support security screening at San Francisco International Airport (SFO) until the end of this year; taxpayers have spent about $1.5 billion on that company, mainly for security at SFO. That airport is held out as the exemplar of how well private companies manage security, which labor leaders say is the case because Covenant workers at SFO are unionized; as a result, they are better paid than security contractors elsewhere and can more strongly influence practices. But even so, the FBI found that some of Covenant’s security personnel helped smugglers traffic cocaine between 2013 and 2014 by allowing them “to pass through the x-ray machine at a security checkpoint line without adequately screening the luggage for explosives, incendiaries, weapons, or other threats to security,” as the Department of Justice wrote.

Just hard to get anything useful out of this article. Privatization returns us to a dangerous past, but we already privatize, and it's really good, but it's only because of unions, but despite that it's still bad, but I guess it must not be too bad because we haven't had any terrorist attacks since 9/11, which is the reason why it's bad to privatize.

W3cUYxYwmXb5cabout 1 hour ago
The TSA has always been taxpayer-funded security theater, and routinely fails at it's own job.

Airports and Airliners should be paying for their own security.

general146532 minutes ago
In Europe you have often private companies like G4S as a security with police doing only supervision and passport control.
dcrazy21 minutes ago
Speaking of Europe, when the topic of airport security comes up I often think about how many European countries use the gendarmerie for public security. We explicitly do not have any such thing here in the U.S., so we wind up with all of these fragmented police forces like ICE with varying degrees of heavy arms.
dfxm12about 1 hour ago
This is going to be end up being like the reflecting pool, but on a grander scale. Tax payers are going to end up paying Trump's incompetent friends a ton of money to just make flying an even worse experience.
nekusarabout 1 hour ago
The REAL airline security benefit was 2 things:

Locks on cockpit doors

Vigilant passengers.

That's it. All the security theater is exactly that - it's a theater production.

The TSA can't even detect guns reliably. In 2023, they failed 95% of gun tests. https://www.travelcodex.com/tsa-misses-95-of-weapons-in-its-...

Or different sites require laptops in separate boxes, but this site is fine. Or shoes on, or shoes off. Porno scanners. Basically the TSA was a big corporate donation to security appratus, and a huge worthless make-work operation.

And if they're really worried about terrorism, it's still beyond stupid. There's still long lines BEFORE security that they could target.

But you know, that person with a small pocketknife is a "REAL DANGER" so the government thieves those evil weapons or how dare they bring 2.5 ounces!

Its stupid idiot theater all around.

xnxabout 1 hour ago
What are "porno scanners"?
mindcrimeabout 1 hour ago
I believe they are referring to the millimeter wave x-ray machines.
readams44 minutes ago
millimeter wave radar systems. Backscatter x-ray machines are no longer used. Both have similar properties of being able to see through clothes.