Back to News
Advertisement
Advertisement

⚡ Community Insights

Discussion Sentiment

71% Positive

Analyzed from 995 words in the discussion.

Trending Topics

#terminal#warp#agent#more#agents#don#something#using#input#able

Discussion (27 Comments)Read Original on HackerNews

lexicalityabout 1 hour ago
I used to really like Warp, back when it was just a terminal. Then as they went more and more in on AI the actual terminal features became more and more buggy and I ended up having to go back to WezTerm.

Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?

hbn34 minutes ago
Yeah I became a fan of Warp when they offered a terminal that treated the input as a normal text input field so I could use my normal keyboard text editing shortcuts.

But I understand that's not a viable business model. I'm back on iTerm2 now cause Warp isn't approved for use at my job (and never would be with all their AI pushing), and I've managed to pound iTerm 2 into something usable enough but I wish every terminal would copy Warp's text input style.

theappsecguy5 minutes ago
does anyone know if the above experience and fluid vim-style behaviour can be replicated on something like ghostty? this was the killer feature of Warp imo and I saw no other benefits, but somehow not other terminal has been able to (or tried to) catch up
giancarlostoro24 minutes ago
I never used Warp, is the editing similar to PowerShell ISE's editing by chance? Powershell ISE is like a mix of a script editor and a PowerShell UI so you can script out some things or use the terminal directly.
lexicality10 minutes ago
The killer feature that got me into using it was the shell integration. Your prompt, input and command output are entirely separate entities rather than one single stream of text. It's like using a Jupyter notebook for the terminal.

That was also the thing that destroyed it for me, since navigating between history entries started getting more and more unreliable and sometimes clicking on the input box would randomly resize the entire window or move it between screens. I don't entirely know how they managed that one.

efficaxabout 1 hour ago
> Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?

You can't raise a $50 million series b on making a nice terminal. we already have lots of nice terminals for free

malvimabout 1 hour ago
We also have a bunch of agents and harnesses for free
dewey41 minutes ago
As always it’s about the packaging not the individual components.
rvzabout 1 hour ago
Another reason why individual developers do not pay for their tools. This is one of the only professions that does this and they always pass the cost to the employer, who will pay for it until they cut costs.

So the open source code on GitHub is the library that agents need to train on, to do all the economically useful work for 1/100th of the cost or close to free.

That is where it is going and the raised money will be going to the agents.

nekooooo27 minutes ago
when i open a new tab in warp now it defaults to their agent and not my actual terminal. i'm going to have to switch back to something else, do you like wezterm?
lexicality14 minutes ago
I don't dislike it. The keybindings are a bit arcane and having to write the config in Lua rather than having a preferences panel is annoying (though spectacularly powerful), but I've settled in to it and being able to use ctrl-shift-p to control the entire terminal is nice.
Croaky18 minutes ago
This is configurable. In Settings search for "Default mode new sessions". You can select "Terminal", "Agent", or "Cloud Oz".
giancarlostoro13 minutes ago
> Cloud agent handoff > Start work in the CLI, then hand it off to the cloud when you want to close your laptop. All cloud agents are tracked centrally and can be monitored and steered via the web so you can continue work on the go.

They hype up not needing a third party binary to remote and run agents against SSH'ed systems, but how does this "cloud agent" work then? Are they shelling you through their own back-end? Because that sounds bad and probably wrong? Maybe its a different use case.

ArvidSu41 minutes ago
My absolute favorite thing about Warp is the function that suggest a new command intelligently when the one I just ran failed or changes to the code when execution failed. Haven't been able to replicate that as smoothly in Ghostty which I really want to enjoy but honestly haven't really felt the same delight I got from Warp.
Jonovono21 minutes ago
The other day in warp I literally couldn't run `ls` because it kept interpreting it as a AI command. I still love warp, but some of the stuff is crazy.
daveidolabout 1 hour ago
So this is a competitor to something like OpenCode or Pi? I suspect for most developers, they are using Claude Code or Codex CLI mainly just so they don't have to pay-per-token and can use the subscription products - which I assume can't be done with Warp Agent?
madeofpalkabout 1 hour ago
I suspect most developers don’t care too much about cost because they’re just using what their company is just paying for whatever enterprise subscription/billing.
Instantnoodlabout 1 hour ago
The codex and many other subscriptions can be used with other harnesses like OpenCode and pi. It's officially supported most of the time. Using my Codex and MiniMax sub just fine in pi.
ac2920 minutes ago
Yeah Anthropic is the only company I am aware of that only allows subscription usage in first party products
arjie38 minutes ago
I do like integrating the shell with the agent. That seems like something I do occasionally need. But the occasion when I need it is getting rarer and rarer so I suspect that this is building a feature for 6 months ago.
devmor12 minutes ago
I like the terminal emulator but I just don't see any use for the agentic stuff.

I've disabled it all because it gets in the way.

agluszakabout 1 hour ago
> a CLI coding agent that does what others can't

I've read the product description and I don't see anything that's truly unique

giancarlostoro15 minutes ago
> think of our CLI agent as a built-in mux’er across agent sessions. This allows more natural interactions, like being able to switch directories in agent sessions, have the agent drive full-screen terminal commands (e.g. sqlite and mysql), and even run across ssh sessions with no remote binary install.

Looks like they let you use your LLM of choice on anything your terminal can SSH into using their TUI without having to install Claude Code or their agent on a remote system. Also, you are able to have multiple shell instances as you would on tmux in one session, all with the LLM fully aware of each one (not sure if its a model per session, or multiple, or what).

bethekidyouwant19 minutes ago
I use warp if you don’t like the AI stuff you can turn it off.
jrm413 minutes ago
The irrational exuberance of these guys. It's interesting to see what happened, somebody somewhere got the very very bad idea (if the goal is to make money) of "we will build, like the BEST terminal."

Which, given open-source, is just going to be a dead-end, even before AI. Because software likes to be modifiable, and this sort of thing is literally at the center of people who like to modify software.

But, hey, if something good comes of it, fantastic. I mostly the think of Docker, an unqualified success in software and probably a huge failure in business.

And the latter actually makes this a double-good; a "successful" docker would have somehow monopolized some very important part of the process, and docker is too good to be gatekept like that.

orliesaurusabout 1 hour ago
im glad you guys open sourced the terminal, just in case, you know...
ActionHank41 minutes ago
No guy, this is the one, this is the coding agent that everyone is going to use now, instead of the one that is in the editor or part of their existing ai providers offering.
Advertisement