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shofetimabout 1 hour ago
bithavocabout 2 hours ago
(VP of Eng here) I filled out their sales form last year and never heard from them. We're currently spending $900k/year on AWS, and they didn't even acknowledge my request. crazy stuff.
apimade9 minutes ago
They work with HFT/quant firms. Look at some of their former engineers who are now at matX.

Intel/Barefoot Tofino 2, VHDL/SystemVerilog, FPGA, QSFP28 (100GbE networking), P4 programming.

Their buyers don’t have customer stories. They don’t sell to SaaS companies.

Sayrusabout 1 hour ago
We had the opposite experience. We contacted them through their form this year and they were happy to discuss with us even when we communicated from the beginning we wouldn't be customer in the short to medium term and even for single rack systems.
MichaelZuoabout 1 hour ago
How did that compare to the big firms? HPE, Dell, and so on.
essephabout 1 hour ago
You don't go to oxide for lowest cost.
ahlabout 2 hours ago
Hit me up @oxidecomputer.com
elliehabout 1 hour ago
tbf they are probably looking for customers with cloud spend ending in 'm'
Nextgrid14 minutes ago
I wonder what's the selling point at that scale. If your ~monthly~ cloud spend ends in "M", you can easily justify hiring the talent needed to wrangle conventional bare-metal (in fact you can do so at much lower spends, but at these spends it becomes a rounding error).

Edit: my bad, read that as monthly instead of yearly. Still, a yearly spend of millions would still make sense to bring that in-house.

elzbardicoabout 1 hour ago
If your CIO is not ideologically averse on paying people instead of paying jeff bezos, you can save money even buying dell.
apiabout 1 hour ago
You are 100% correct but you’d be shocked at the mortal terror that “self hosting” inflicts in the minds of even people who should really know better.

Also forget Dell. Check out DataPacket.com and other metal hosters. You don’t need to physically rack unless you are huge or have special hardware or security needs.

The cloud industry has done an incredible job at a kind of soft pervasive propaganda that running stuff is “hard.”

antonvs41 minutes ago
You’re expressing a very narrow engineer’s perspective that doesn’t consider the realities of managing bare metal hosting at any kind of scale.

These are business decisions, made in terms of core competencies, capex vs. opex, and the difficulties and cost of building out a reliable, sustainable hosting operation that handles all the compliance and security requirements, and the full range of “ilities” that real businesses have to deal with.

The fact that Bob in IT might be capable of doing some of this on his own doesn’t really enter into the picture. It’s not relevant.

There’s a reason that most companies don’t operate their own electricity generation systems. Much the same is true for computing systems.

Alien1Beingabout 1 hour ago
Logical.

They probably will be aquihired by someone like Broadcom.

TimTheTinker37 minutes ago
I can't think of an outcome that would be more odious to Steve Tuck and Brian Cantrill. Brian in particular still talks about the soul-crushing experience of Oracle's hostile takeover of Sun Microsystems.
Nextgrid11 minutes ago
Is there anything they're doing that can't be replicated by hypervisor/management software on commodity x86 servers? Seems like their "secret sauce" is a software stack that "just works" more than any actual special feature of the hardware.

I feel like Broadcom with its VMWare acquisition could easily take these guys out if they wanted to (or for that matter, any OEM that has a line of servers + network & storage hardware). They don't, most likely because there isn't actually enough profit to be made there (Oxide having to raise money multiple times might be a hint).

joshuamorton4 minutes ago
> Is there anything they're doing that can't be replicated by hypervisor/management software on commodity x86 servers? Seems like their "secret sauce" is a software stack that "just works" more than any actual special feature of the hardware.

There's a reason Apple is consistently one of the top 5 most valuable companies. It isn't because their hardware does anything that can't be done on "commodity" hardware, its that they built a software stack that "just works" and part of that was tight coupling to the hardware.

FireBeyond5 minutes ago
> Broadcom with its VMWare acquisition could easily take these guys out if they wanted to.

Depends on what you mean by that. Broadcom cremated a lot of VMware's goodwill in the market.

dkbrk40 minutes ago
I doubt that. Oxide was founded by a bunch of ex-Sun people who have already been burned by the Oracle acquisition. If you read through what they say, their company values, and how they act, it's pretty clear their intent is to grow a sustainable long-term business and they're not looking for an exit.
senderista23 minutes ago
VC funding is not for "a sustainable long-term business".
boomskatsabout 1 hour ago
I expect the majority of Oxide's customers are actively trying to escape Broadcom's VMWare hell. Can't see how something like that would make sense.
a2ff6eeb0about 1 hour ago
It makes sense for Broadcom to remove that avenue of escape, and it makes sense for Oxide's investors to charge a premium to Broadcom, and materialize their returns.

The customers will have to deal with it, of course. At least they bought physical systems instead of renting them, so they can use them until they're obsolete.

MisterTeaabout 1 hour ago
Makes sense for Broadcom.
jiveturkey22 minutes ago
Well that isn't that much. $1M / month feels more like it.
aatd8617 minutes ago
Forbid a business can grow, haha
apiabout 1 hour ago
Say you are spending $1M. Round up. Or even 0.9M. Their sales might only return inquiries with cloud costs ending in M.
JRandomHacker426 minutes ago
Wish I could have heard back about my job application there. It looks like a really exciting place to work.
fishgoesblubabout 2 hours ago
I've seen posts about Oxide for years now, but do they actually ship hardware? I've never seen images, or posts about companies with their new Oxide Thingamajig™
ahlabout 2 hours ago
We've shipped kind of a lot of hardware at this point!
throw0101dabout 2 hours ago
The CEO of Shopify tweeted about it at one point:

* https://twitter.com/tobi/status/1793798092212367669

vsgherziabout 2 hours ago
as far as I can tell, yes?

It seems like Jane street and lawrence national laboratory are two confirmed customers.

fishgoesblubabout 2 hours ago
With those two names it makes more since that I haven't seen anything regarding their use. Not exactly Joe Schmoe LLC as customers.
mihaelmabout 2 hours ago
Joe Schmoe LLC will probably do just fine by sticking to popular clouds. I reckon adopting Oxide Computer would pay off at much larger volumes of traffic, or if you have to do on-prem due to regulatory reasons.

It would be nice to know more about pricing so the Enthusiast Joe can have a better idea, but it's more a boutique vibe right now.

essephabout 1 hour ago
Most of their customers wouldn't be the type to let others know.
LennyWhiteJrabout 1 hour ago
I will implicitly trust anything Jessie Frazelle works on. Rare combination of taste, skill, and passion.
Aurornis44 minutes ago
She stepped down several years ago.

She was still listed as an advisor in some capacity, but she moved on to a different startup.

sscarduzioabout 1 hour ago
yep, another fan here!
bkolobaraabout 1 hour ago
They just raised $200M in February and $100M a year ago.
dgellowabout 1 hour ago
Preparing for an IPO maybe?
newsclues34 minutes ago
Funding RAM purchases...
brcmthrowaway11 minutes ago
The real question is why did Steve Klabnik leave
panick21_13 minutes ago
Preempted the blog post.

Man, they are just sucking up capital. If somebody like Antropic has made them the primary 'CPU' rack, then that's they kind of cash you need.

I mean, you could probably get multiple GIGAbytes of RAM with 445M.