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saidayabout 2 hours ago
Sending push notifications to iOS without relying on a native app has already become a mature option. Last year Apple extended the standard Web Push with Declarative Web Push, which finally makes the whole thing make sense. (It's handled natively by WebKit rather than driven by JavaScript, which improves push reliability and privacy, much like the native push notification model.)

Kukuroo uses Cloudflare Workers so that end devices can subscribe to push notifications and relay push requests to the Worker, which signs and delivers them. I personally found it genuinely useful and full of potential, so I open sourced it: kukuroo.cc

Requirements:

Safari on iOS and macOS only (though seriously, who receives push notifications on macOS?) The web page that receives the notifications has to be added to the Home Screen A Cloudflare account. Push notifications and lightweight serverless functions are a perfect match

spiderfarmerabout 1 hour ago
The might have fixed some issues but the fact that it is only available for homescreen websites and that the link to add them there is buried in the UI is very stupid imho.
saidayabout 1 hour ago
agree ++
mrklol5 minutes ago
My biggest problem with web push is that you won’t get notifications on iOS anymore, if you haven’t opened the app for a while. A tad bad for some apps.
skybrianabout 1 hour ago
It sounds like adding a Safari web app to your home screen is a slightly janky delivery mechanism?

Could you use Safari for delivering the notifications even if your default browser is something else?

noman-landabout 1 hour ago
Are there any solutions to encrypting notifications so that the service provider cannot see them?
saidayabout 1 hour ago
Declarative Web Push messages are end-to-end encrypted natively, even Apple cannot see the content.
zuzululu31 minutes ago
I use FCNS or APNS to send notifications to mobile apps, its a bit of hassle but it reaches all platforms.

It'd be great if this solution reaches all browsers on all OS but I can see the potential for spamming , might be why Apple and Android require photo id now.

oulipoabout 1 hour ago
Seems nice! I use FCM (Firebase) which does this for Android and iOS, which does require some setup, but it's not too bad
saidayabout 1 hour ago
unfortunately, Declarative Web Push only supports WebKit, means Android cannot use it.