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throwawaypathabout 1 hour ago
Deportations should be efficient and swiftly follow after apprehension. Delay only funnels public funds to companies such as these.
hightrixabout 1 hour ago
Yes, but where’s the cruelty that this administration so strongly desires? These people need to be punished for what they’ve done regardless of if they’ve done it. Additionally, efficiency means lower revenue and that simply can’t happen.
jameskiltonabout 2 hours ago
The entire concept of "for-profit incarceration/detention" should not exist. Such a system only incentivizes cruelty.
virissimoabout 2 hours ago
In practice, it doesn't seem to make much difference:

> Propensity score matching and regression analyses of the National Inmate Survey are used to examine individuals’ experiences and perceptions of environmental quality in public versus private prisons across key domains of prison life, with an emphasis on needs, behaviors, victimization, and attitudes. No differences are identified for women. Males in private prisons are more likely than men in public prisons to perceive there to be inadequate staffing and are less likely to report maintaining ties with people outside of prison. Men in private prisons are also less likely to report crowding to be an issue.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361439680_Private_V....

brenschlussabout 2 hours ago
We should zoom out in perspective. The question is not “is the experience in for-profit prisons better for incarcerated people”.

It is “for-profit prisons create a system with a financial incentive to increase the number of incarcerated people”.

pirate787about 2 hours ago
For-profit is the delivery system, which should save taxpayer money. Systems where the institutions are directly administered by taxpayer funds and their attendant public employee unions also have political/financial incentives.
cucumber373284230 minutes ago
Because the state prisons are trying to cut costs and/or profit the same way the private ones are. They just tend to invest in waste and expansion rather than pay $$ to owners/investors.

The whole thing is rotten. Changing the ownership of the mess doesn't make it not rotten.

pfannkuchenabout 1 hour ago
What we really need is a prison voucher program. The prisoners get to go to whatever prison they want to, and then the prison they go to gets paid. Incentives aligned!
TheCoelacanth34 minutes ago
I'm not really sold on the idea of private prisons in general, but if we're going to have them it should at least be the prisoner's choice. Unaccountable private prisons that are also a government enforced monopoly is just the worst of both worlds.
moi2388about 1 hour ago
Does it? The alternative is non-profit incarceration/detention, in which the incentive is to not put people in prison, leading to more crime, lower trust and more victims.
triceratops16 minutes ago
> non-profit incarceration/detention, in which the incentive is to not put people in prison

How do you figure? Is the "I'll save you money by being soft on crime" election platform popular in your country?

moribvndvs43 minutes ago
Nice false dilemma you have here.
moominabout 2 hours ago
Always interesting to answer the question of who benefits from certain policies.
cwmooreabout 2 hours ago
Apparently it is the luxuriating inmates: “an average rate of $307,000 per bed.”
andaiabout 2 hours ago
And, as is tradition, are deprived of approximately all the value they produce!
somenameformeabout 2 hours ago
Wowzer. Can somebody please start AirBnBars? I have an extra room, and some steel bars.
greenavocado10 minutes ago
I'm so brain rotted I read that as a new Prison-1.4B model release
raouljabout 3 hours ago
YoY Net Income from CoreCivic's own financials (2025-2022): 116.50, 68.87, 67.59, 122.32
parineumabout 2 hours ago
It's intentionally misleading to use revenue in this headline.

People will read that headline and come away with the impression that private prisons are making billions. They're expenses are most likely scaling with their revenue.

If your concern is that private prisons exist or that detention is climbing, the dollar figure is secondary to other, better measures. Instead, revenue is (mis)used to give yhe impression that people are getting rich off of this and, while that may be true, the relevant number is the increase in income, not revenue.

In short, NPR isn't above clickbait that's biased towards their audiences.

runakoabout 2 hours ago
No. Revenue is a generally accepted business metric. It is normal to discuss revenue without being also compelled to discuss profits at the same time. You don't have to like the common way of discussing business, but that doesn't change this.

> give yhe impression that people are getting rich off of this

CoreCivic is a public company, so we can see that the C-suite each earns over $1m annually in cash compensation. the Chief Development officer earns more cash compensation than the person holding the same title at Hilton, a company worth over 20x more.

Then, we can look at the insider roster to see that the CEO currently holds over $10 million in stock, the heads of HR and corrections each hold over $5 million, etc.

People should get the impression that people are getting rich off this because people are getting rich off this.

woodruffwabout 2 hours ago
Independent reporting on the treatment of detained immigrants might reasonably lead one to believe that expenses are not scaling linearly with increased revenue.
diabllicseagullabout 2 hours ago
It's a useful figure in that it shows how fast an industry, which shouldn't exist, grows:

"Swindle said that CoreCivic's total revenue went up by just over 27% this spring compared to the same quarter last year, for a total of $684.9 million."

forgetfreemanabout 2 hours ago
This "well actually" feels like it's in the same vein as tobacco companies funding cancer research. 30 seconds with Google shows that CoreCivic's Q1 earnings for 2026 are ~%50 higher than earnings reported for Q1 from last year. So yeah, they're getting rich off this.
moateabout 2 hours ago
>> They're expenses are most likely scaling with their revenue

A unique phenomenon that only exists in this industry and is clearly the reason you feel opposed to people performing the same sort of analysis they would on other businesses...

Also, nobody would assume a company with 1.4B in rev is "making billions" as that would be impossible based on their revenue being less than 2 billion.

isodevabout 1 hour ago
Ah yes, slavery
achillesheelsabout 2 hours ago
Oligarchy! Sad!