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tverbeureabout 2 hours ago
> Every possible product name is carefully checked to avoid undesirable meanings in other languages, political or religious affiliations and fit into our global profile.

I love the JERKER desk that I bought 26 years ago, so I assume this rule must be younger than that.

forgotmypasswor3 minutes ago
I was at IKEA once when they first came to America and there was a chair that was called the "assengråbben" or something like that.

I heard a guy nearby telling the person with him "must be for the interns".

andrewfromx34 minutes ago
javcasas29 minutes ago
You also have the Mitsubishi Pajero. Feel free to find the derogatory term in the wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero

rtkweabout 2 hours ago
Perhaps even the source of that rule.
dhosekabout 1 hour ago
Pax is another one that violates the rule that someone pointed out lower. Also Malm is a surname which is another violation of the rule (one of the characters in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was named, if I recall correctly, Stefan Malm). I remember reading the books with my then-wife and she said it was like reading an IKEA catalog. I thought she was referring to the character/place names, but it turned out that the second book had a long section where the titular girl furnishes an apartment from IKEA and—that chapter was exactly like reading an IKEA catalog.
BambooleanLogic9 minutes ago
When it comes to names like "MALM", it's likely incidental.

"Malm" is a a noun with several meanings, most notably "metal ore", but also some (more archaic) meanings like "area with sandy soil" or "city outskirts".

The fact that "Malm" also happens to be a surname is secondary; Swedish has a lot of surnames that are simply ordinary nouns or adjectives. A completely literal "No surnames, ever" rule would probably be quite a bit too restrictive. I suspect that the actual internal rule is "No names that are primarily (or solely) surnames", or something to that effect.

jagaerglad27 minutes ago
Although "Malm" is a common surname, it's a word first and a name second if that makes sense

The same way "Brown" is common surname in English but mostly makes you think of the color first

glimsheabout 1 hour ago
An excellent desk, by the way. I still have mine (the old heavy duty model)!
SoleilAbsolu6 minutes ago
I'm happy to say I'm in the circle of jer...Um...So do I, one of the best home purchases I've ever made!
brunoborgesabout 2 hours ago
You know the saying... a "Do not step on the grass" sign only shows up after people start frequently stepping on the grass...
bcaulfieldabout 2 hours ago
Amazing. A post asks a question in the title that I actually want answered, and then goes on to answer that question clearly and succinctly. Maybe the best corporate content I've seen this year.
usuiabout 2 hours ago
But how can I find the answer to the question without reading punchy headers followed by paragraphs like

> How We Leverage Naming

> Our Naming Strategy, Explained

> Why Swedish Is Important

> The Bottom Line

And unforgettable aphorisms like

> It isn't just a name—it is the output of a scalable, globally coordinated, linguistically validated, Swedish-inspired naming framework designed to optimize brand consistency

to let me know? I'm completely lost on this page and can't find the answer without these.

applfanboysbgon37 minutes ago
How am I supposed to know what matters if they don't tell me, in an honest fashion?
deadbunnyabout 2 hours ago
May I introduce you to the UK chain Iceland and their stance on management consultants?

https://about.iceland.co.uk/our-story/the-dark-ages/beware-m...

hadrien01about 1 hour ago
The entire section of the website about 'The Dark Ages' is priceless. They don't pull any punches: https://about.iceland.co.uk/our-story/the-dark-ages/
bcaulfieldabout 1 hour ago
Brilliant.

Submit it to Hacker News as its own post before I do.

Seriously.

You have one hour.

aanetabout 1 hour ago
This is fckn brilliant!!

I’m bookmarking it for sharing

Nuxabout 1 hour ago
Just brilliant!
lefraabout 2 hours ago
I agree, and it's kind of sad that getting simple, clear communication is exceptional.
fy20about 2 hours ago
For a Swede it must seem kind of strange to understand the product names. You see an ACORN toy, a NIGEL bookshelf, and the CROYDON sofa... which sounds like it belongs in a council estate flat.

Definately more fun would be the Polish version. How many people can pronounce the BYDGOSZCZ sofa, the PRZEMYSŁAW bookcase and the PSZCZOŁA soft toy?

nine_kabout 2 hours ago
If the goal is something that reads weird for most Europeans, then try picking names from Finnish, Estonian, Hungarian, or Welsh.
noir_lordabout 1 hour ago
My missus is Hungarian, I'm sure it's a lovely language but it just sounds like Klingon to me.

Which makes it hilarious when she's annoyed at the boy.

pndyabout 1 hour ago
The fact that Sz in Hungarian reads as s and other way around, S becomes sh - is mind-boggling especially for Poles, where Sz is pronounced as sh. and S remains s.
victorbjorklundabout 2 hours ago
It is kind of funny sometimes. Sometimes it’s related to what the thing is (like a pun) and sometimes just random
RugnirVikingabout 2 hours ago
its not all that strange tbh - im learning danish which is adjacent enough to swedish that I can understand most of the names - sometimes they aren't relevant to the product function, sometimes they are, but they're just names. Is it strange to you that the word "photoshop" uses english language? what about a Hamburger being named after a place?
fyltrabout 1 hour ago
Nitpicking but your examples all have a clear etymology that may even help you deduce the purpose of a thing. Hamburger means 'from Hamburg' and can be short for 'in the style of Hamburg', which sounds perfectly normal to a native. This is, would I say, less strange than if it was named 'Hamburg', which seems to be the case of IKEA furniture. Photoshop, in the same way, seems to refer to a photo workshop, which once again has an etymology, as it refers to the initial purpose of that program, reworking pictures. On the opposite, if things are just named 'for the lulz', and my desk is called Boston, my text editor 'golden retriever' and my lamp acorn, confusion may at some point arise.
schoenabout 1 hour ago
GNOME used to give software applications names of common nouns that were usually not strongly related to their function: Nautilus, Palimpsest, Totem, Tomboy, Seahorse. At some point I think they decided to move away from this because they found many users had a hard time remembering the names.
dmurrayabout 1 hour ago
How about eating a Sandwich with Turkey, Bologna and Cheddar, maybe with a Paris-Brest for dessert?
pndyabout 1 hour ago
Ikea mobile application has little speaker near the product name that invokes pronunciation - sadly, that's not available on desktop site. I still tend to read Swedish accented letters in these names as German umlauts.

So that wouldn't be a problem if Polish names would be provided with audio examples.

By the way, the communistic period here was full of products using regular words, name of places or people’s names. We had Wisła, Bieszczady wall units. First Polish color TV was Jowisz (Jupiter); first TV ever my mother had was called Szafir (Saphire). Then Szarotka (elderweis) or Sylwia radios from 50s and 60s respectively. A clone of IBM PC with Intel 8086 (or with Russian clone) from 1986 was called Mazovia - Mazowsze which is a historical region of Poland, same name was also used for DOS encoding for that machine.

kzrdude2 minutes ago
The German vowels are a good start, but Swedish pronunciation is of course a little bit vowel shifted from German.
noir_lordabout 1 hour ago
> CROYDON sofa

I mean.. we have the Windsor Chair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_chair) and the Welsh Dresser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_dresser) and those both slightly predate ikea so it's not a new thing.

ignoramousabout 1 hour ago
You have a point but in Branding, it is accepted that bold (noisy) and distinctive (rather than only descriptive) names are an advantage: Creating billion-dollar brands: Vercel, Azure, Windsurf, Sonos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adyIaTopO6g&t=610 (Jun 2025).
zeroqabout 1 hour ago
> Did you know that we name around 2,000-3,000 new products every year?

It's more likely that the whole product catalog contains 2-3k products. [1][2][3] So no, you don't.

[1] https://www.ikea.com/us/en/cat/products-products [2] https://lar5.com/ikea (~ 2200) [3] https://namingschemes.com/Ikea_Product_Names (~ 1300)

driese15 minutes ago
The product names have made me chuckle quite a few times in the past. Such an easy way to make your products more likeable.

Also, maybe semi-relevant: I made a small guessing game about the IKEA product catalogue in case someone wants to be lightly entertainment for two minutes [1].

[1] https://deriese.net/ikeaguesser.html?s=hn

senkoabout 2 hours ago
My favorite is `fejka` for the artificial plant/flower.

I think "being as widely-understandable pun as possible" is definitely one of their naming priorities.

7734128about 2 hours ago
The door mats are mostly named after places in Denmark, as they should be.
ErikCorryabout 1 hour ago
The toilet seat is named after the strait between Denmark and Sweden. https://youtu.be/ajBN0Xypi0I
reaperducerabout 2 hours ago
The door mats should be named after doors, and the place mats named after places.
jannyferabout 1 hour ago
The $50USD Bluetooth speakers "NATTBAD" gave us a good chuckle.

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/nattbad-bluetooth-speaker-yello...

hk__2about 2 hours ago
> Did you know that we name around 2,000-3,000 new products every year?

I find this surprisingly high; I guess it’s _products_ and not _names_, meaning that five colors of the same product count as five new products but only one name.

samdbmg32 minutes ago
If you ever find yourself in southern Sweden (or Copenhagen and fancy a train ride across a cool bridge) the IKEA museum at Älmhult is well worth a visit: https://ikeamuseum.com/en/
plaidfujiabout 1 hour ago
This is so random. I had just pulled this exact page up this morning to settle a debate with coworkers over whether the product names were real Swedish words or not. I thought they were all made up!

Was very surprised to find things like “bookshelves are all men’s names”, “all names must have ä, å, or ö”, etc.

Complete coincidence that this is #2 today. Had to check that ’NaOH’ wasn’t one of my coworkers

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Eduardabout 2 hours ago
> contain between 4 and 12 letters

PAX

https://www.ikea.com/de/en/cat/pax-system-19086/

wowczarek43 minutes ago
Ever since I heard this song, it now always plays in my head whenever IKEA comes up - have a listen while reading:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4si8w8WMFc

(Rob Paravonian - Particle Board) - of Dr. Demento, etc., fame.

Loicabout 1 hour ago
About 25 years ago, one rule was that everything related to the toilets was in Danish. He said it was the Swedish Danish rivalry.
jonplackett37 minutes ago
My Swedish friend told me they make the more expensive things to sound more Swedish and the cheaper stuff to sound Norwegian.

Any speakers of either language able to confirm or deny?

ano-ther30 minutes ago
This article from 2018 claims the same (and that Danish sounding names are rugs and floormats): https://www.worldnomads.com/in-the-news/the-hidden-message-i...
mig39about 1 hour ago
The Fräck mirror was named after the commonly used faux swear word on Battlestar Galactica, where one of the characters used a similar mirror:

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/fraeck-mirror-stainless-steel-3...

wowczarekabout 1 hour ago
And then, unbeknownst to what the Sci-Fi future might bring, an Italian home appliance manufacturer names themselves SMEG.
pndyabout 1 hour ago
You may say that "There's too much confusion", ha!
joshdavhamabout 2 hours ago
> preferably contain the letters Å, Ä or Ö

Yes, but why prefer these letters?

I don’t know Swedish. Is it because these diacritics make the names seem more exotic?

Snildabout 2 hours ago
Those are the letters we have that are distinct from English. Not exotic to us, but yeah, "weird letters" is probably considered part of the international brand now.

By the way, we consider them unique letters, not A and O with diacritics. The Swedish alphabet goes …XYZÅÄÖ.

Oh, and I just learned that we only officially added W in 2006. Before that, it was considered a variant of V. We still pronounce them the same, which is why many swedes will mix them up when speaking English. Mostly in the W->V direction, but I've heard the opposite happen too.

bonoboTPabout 1 hour ago
Huh, interesting that they are collated at the end. These differences also makes sorting language dependent.

In Hungarian it's A, Á, B, C, Cs, D, Dz, Dzs, E, É, F... So Cu--- comes before Cs---

mihaelmabout 1 hour ago
I guess it helps with emphasizing their Swedish identity, which is one of their goals with naming. Doesn't gel too well with "feels good to say" for a non-native speaker, but I see their point.
dhosekabout 1 hour ago
Most likely. In the early 90s there was a knock-off of Ikea called Stør which used the ø for exoticism. I had assumed that it was a Danish company, but apparently, not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STØR (The store where I bought some of my first furniture from—off the 60 in City of Industry—was quite possibly the original location).
mirmor23about 2 hours ago
> I don’t know Swedish. Is it because these diacritics make the names seem more exotic?

of course. Haagen Dazs, Motorhead, etc have known it loooong ago

HoldOnAMinuteabout 1 hour ago
Pöyzen Böyzen
devsdaabout 1 hour ago
Not sure why, but when I see certain diacritics with latin alphabet, my brain tries to place the language somewhere in Europe. I don't know if I can call that an exotic feeling but it certainly feels foreign.
bonoboTPabout 1 hour ago
Scandinavia and the Nordics are quite fancy and refined for Americans. Lagom, hygge, fika, the minimalism, the enlightened equality and solidarity, good education, little crime, highest happiness ratings, even prisons are like hotels, etc makes it a kind of imagined lifestyle that's cozy and thoughtful and so on.
fcatalanabout 1 hour ago
That's how they getcha, and then go full midsommar...
ErikCorryabout 1 hour ago
Could also be Vietnamese, they are big on diacritics.
elwellabout 2 hours ago
Yës
qurren23 minutes ago
Why not rename to IKEÅ ?
tstennerabout 2 hours ago
You mean öf cårse?
joshdavhamabout 2 hours ago
Håhåhåhå
ButlerianJihadabout 2 hours ago
röck döts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_umlaut

A møøse once bit my sister...

DonHopkinsabout 2 hours ago
I raise you an em-dash —̈ with an umlaut!

Suck on that, AI Slop Detector!

(Confession and question for dang: I actually used an LLM to generate that unicode composite to copy and paste —̈ is that against HN guidelines?)

Xirdusabout 2 hours ago
> preferably contain the letters Å, Ä or Ö

I always thought it's just a natural consequence of using Swedish language, turns out it's on purpose!

nine_kabout 1 hour ago
Swedish does naturally use a lot of letters with umlauts (e.g. a common plural suffix -är), so a noun with a special letter is usually not hard to come by, and looks more Swedish (than, say, Dutch or English, which are sort of cousin languages).
dvaplimaabout 2 hours ago
Nice, How to use that strategy for software? But first It makes sense?
Frierenabout 2 hours ago
> preferably contain the letters Å, Ä or Ö

I'm 100% för this.

dvaplima43 minutes ago
Hahaha for sure
dofmabout 1 hour ago
I had assumed it involved a dartboard.
jansanabout 2 hours ago
I love how the chose Verde, which means value, for their long time retired kitchen furniture. They were so good that they still sell above their original retail prices now.
nine_kabout 2 hours ago
I hope that green items are especially prized!
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culebron21about 1 hour ago
https://zagge.ru/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/13333008.jpg

Translation:

  Somewhere inside IKEA.
  - How do we call the table lamp?
  - GNVOERK
close04about 2 hours ago
> Ingvar Kamprad, founder of IKEA, had a hard time remembering numbers and numbers

And also numbers I assume. Does it mean something like “endless stream of numbers”?

I’m very surprised that they have 2000-3000 new products every year. Checking every name against every language of countries they operate in to avoid “bad” names must be a pain.

Snildabout 2 hours ago
The Swedish version of the page just says "siffror" (literally "digits", but colloquially "numbers") once.

I'm not aware of any relevant Swedish expression that would repeat the same word like that. Maybe something like "siffror och tal", where both words could be translated as "numbers" by someone not paying attention to the resulting sentence. :)

red75primeabout 2 hours ago
A subdivision of people who know every obscenity in the world would be chuckleworthy, but I guess they use a validation program.
ButlerianJihadabout 2 hours ago
Well, that institutional knowledge has been accumulated, held, and passed down through generations of DMV workers in the USA.
devmorabout 2 hours ago
And yet some still get through!

I’ve seen “LILCHYT” and “MYSHART” on the road recently.

victorbjorklundabout 2 hours ago
Seems like a mistake. No expression like that in Swedish at least.
junaruabout 2 hours ago
> Every possible product name is carefully checked to avoid undesirable meanings in other languages, political or religious affiliations and fit into our global profile.

Hey Donna [1]...

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T2oje4cYxw

whalesaladabout 2 hours ago
I figured they just let a Dala horse walk around on top of a bunch of keyboards and whatever string comes out is the new name?
zer00eyzabout 1 hour ago
I always just thought Swedish had a lot of words for "crap".

Ikea used to make somewhat reasonable and affordable products, that, in total were much higher quality than their price point suggested.

Now they are just cheap, on almost every metric.

TheExaltd4about 3 hours ago
Maybe