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Xcancel and Nitter have been taken down

mmadduci about 3 hours ago 71 comments

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Nitter.net and Xcancel.com have been both taken down by the X Corp "cease and desist" letter
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OhMeadhbh29 minutes ago
I stopped virtually all social media (except commenting on YouTube videos and telling people they're wrong in HN comments) years ago. No twitter, no mastadon, no bsky, no facebook. I keep hearing myspace is going to re-launch and I would consider getting an account there for the purposes of irony.

But... instead of tweeting for an hour a day, I spend that hour reading long form dead tree format texts. I'm not saying this is what you should do, just offering it as an observation that it is an option.

freewilly238 minutes ago
yeah i have been doing the same for a few months now.. deleted all social media accounts and blocked sites like reddit, twitter etc., so i don't get into the trap of 'only quickly checking'. hn is the only social media site i still visit.

it's done wonders for my mental.

ttoinou8 minutes ago
Somebody should relaunch that dead tree format into a new tree format
mvdwoord23 minutes ago
You are so awesome for that.
matesz41 minutes ago
Ex-x account holder here. Even if the world is going to fall and details about this even will be accessible exclusively behind X login wall, I am not setting up the account there again, NO WAY.

I wholeheartedly recommend you do the same - remove your account and forget about it. Almost certainly you won't miss it, as I didn't miss it. And there is a big chance you will get a big sight of relief, as I did.

If you really must, use https://twitterwebviewer.com/ which imo has better interface than Nitter.

Banditoz37 minutes ago
I disagree. Nitter's big pull was lightweight SSR, this site is not that. Nitter also actually _looks like_ Twitter more than this site!
0xblinq34 minutes ago
I do want to remove my account there.

But when I was doing it, I got a big warning that anyone could come up and register that handle for themselves. So I instead ended up just deleting every post, my personal details, and left the account alone (not using it anymore).

I know they do this intentionally (it's bad intentions all over the place on social networks nowadays, except HN, of course).

I'm terrified of somebody else just creating the account with the same handle I used to have, and impersonate me across old friends and contacts.

What do you suggest?

bean46920 minutes ago
You can just inform your friends that you will be deleting your twitter account
0xblinq7 minutes ago
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mentalgear19 minutes ago
Pin a post that you leave X (or any major SM): say its your last post because they have become a greedy, amoral cesspool and add links where they can find you instead.
0xblinq7 minutes ago
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embedding-shape27 minutes ago
> I wholeheartedly recommend you do the same - remove your account and forget about it.

I'm not sure this is a great idea, if you have a somewhat unique username or you use that same username elsewhere.

Multiple times, me and others have changed usernames on some platform, and either immediately when you rename, or few seconds afterwards, some squatter will grab your old username, and most platforms don't care about helping you recover anything, so suddenly you've opened up phishing/spam venues associated with your old username.

Personally I'm not sure what the solution is to this, I've resorted to just not deleting accounts where this might happen, but leave the account inactive and unused.

mentalgear20 minutes ago
Just do the obvious thing: stop posting there, don't view it anymore, and pin a post that you leave X (or any major SM) because they have become a greedy, amoral cesspool and links where they can find you now.
rbwkap34 minutes ago
Fortunately it is almost impossible to set up a new account. The sign-up process is totally broken, links in the docs are stale and everything looks vibe coded. And they want a phone number and possibly an ID.

Nitter is good software, I have no idea how Twitter users put up with this garbage fire.

sliqqq13 minutes ago
Why? X is one of the rare uncensored publishing / communication networks we have. Do you prefer living in a highly regulated, censored pre-gated world where information is hidden if somebody "feels offended" by it or state / ngo actors dont want something to go public?

The brainwashing against free, open, uncensored and community-corrected platforms is crazy.

teiferer3 minutes ago
Free and open until Elon Musk doesn't like what you wrote.
curt156 minutes ago
post-it7 minutes ago
Crazy thing to write on a post about X censoring mirrors.
kova126 minutes ago
It is censored. They just don't tell you what they censor you for. You need to post, and then your account gets locked for bogus reason, and that's how you know what not no say. Like in Carlin's joke about words you are not supposed to say, NOBODY GIVES YOU A LIST!
swozey9 minutes ago
If it means avoiding 4 karma troll accounts like yours upset that they can't go around aiming to offend who they can, absolutely.

I got several engineering jobs via twitter in the olde days, when it had engineers on it, and I've lost absolutely nothing of value by not having it in its current state.

But hey, I'm also someone who thinks we should've nuked 4chan and all the chan boards from orbit 15 years ago before they turned into nazi pedo meeting grounds.

nicole_express29 minutes ago
My hope is that this reduces the relevancy of Twitter; a lot of people who consider it a moral reason not use X.com proper end up still using Nitter/Xcancel to keep an eye on discussions, which has helped reduce the reason to leave the site.

But in reality I suspect that group isn't actually large enough to have much impact, especially since some will just give in and register on the Everything App.

OhMeadhbh28 minutes ago
I was a twitter beta tester in 2005 when it was a SMS to intarwebs gateway. IMHO, it stopped being relevant sometime around 2008.
ljm14 minutes ago
Going cold turkey on Twitter (and Facebook and the like) was amazing, but the problem for a while was that you'd still end up browsing it by proxy because it would all get screenshotted for Reddit.

It's been a long time since I've seen them (thank god), but the worst culprits were subs like facepalm, white people twitter, leopards ate my face, and pretty much any left-leaning or liberal sub.

They did a fantastic job of platforming the ideologies they stand against simply by screenshotting the most vocal advocates and talking heads and sharing them so commenters could get angry. That shit lived rent free in the subscribers' heads to an unhealthy degree and for everybody who hate-engaged, there were plenty more who saw it as an introduction.

One day I'll do for Reddit what I did for the rest of social media but for now it's easy enough to stay off Popular and All and just stick with the smaller subs with a specific subject matter.

mnls12 minutes ago
You can still selfhost it. You might lose the privacy benefit and you got to have an account to get session token etc but the tracking is way less than using X's app/browser and Nitter is extremely lightweight on resources both at server level and at client.
r721about 2 hours ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49437283 (1149 comments)
Yizahi13 minutes ago
Well, I'll just don't read Xitter then (not that I did it anyway). Let that dump bubble and isolate itself, if they wish it so hard.
maelito35 minutes ago
Just switch to Bsky.app or mu.social (european version, same global network).
embedding-shape30 minutes ago
I'm well aware of what bsky.app is, and for others, there is a "Help" link at least, except it's not super clear. But on mu.social, how can I learn about what it actually is? It's missing a "What is mu.social?" link or something. Ironically, they have a "Donate" link/button, but no "About".
dist-epoch12 minutes ago
How do I follow AI news or discussions on Bsky? It's basically viewed and treated there as worse than nazi propaganda.
garo-pro36 minutes ago
It's quite unfortunate, a lot of people or organisations I am interested in - AI for example - only post on X, and perhaps it's only a matter of time until services like bird.makeup also get taken down. Also, accessibility wise it's sad too, X's web interface is not the best out there and without login you cannot do really much.
alpineman32 minutes ago
Is it so hard for them to crosspost automatically to all platforms? I always wonder why they don't post elsewhere in this day and age
dec0dedab0de25 minutes ago
If AI really is democratizing technology, it won’t be long before we get back to everyone having a personal website.

I remember blowing everyone’s mind when i wrote a php script to scrape my bands myspace to keep our website up to date with show details. It was like a magic trick.

That sort of power is in the hands of the masses now, they just don’t know it yet.

shikck200about 3 hours ago
Who TF wants to use Twitter? Its the worst echo chamber out there.
philipallstar39 minutes ago
> Who TF wants to use Twitter? Its the worst echo chamber out there.

It's certainly more diverse than Bluesky, if this is an echo chamber-measuring contest.

Gareth32117 minutes ago
It's crazy to see the same people accusing X of being an echo-chamber suggesting Bluesky without a hint of irony or interospection.
tonyhart721 minutes ago
>>Who TF wants to use Twitter? Its the worst echo chamber out there.

>>then proceed to use bluesky

lmao

strusabout 1 hour ago
Sir, you are controlling the buttons you push. I.e. it's up to you who you follow and what exactly you read on Twitter - just like any other social network.

There are news that are circulating much faster on Twitter than anywhere else (for example about war in Ukraine). There are people and companies that post only on Twitter and nowhere else (especially in tech).

vvillenaabout 1 hour ago
> it's up to you who you follow and what exactly you read on Twitter

The Twitter experience is a highly algorithmic feed where tweets from the people you follow are not guaranteed to be in chronological order, or even shown to you at all. The default experience also mixes it other tweets "you might be interested in", that is, things they want you to see.

There's also the fact people could freely see tweets and follow discussion threads, that's now locked behind an account requirement.

vintermann8 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure the Ukraine war news on Twitter are mostly what's bubbled up from less accessible forums (like Telegram channels).

This site is a good alternative for tech news.

OroPla8 minutes ago
Twitter doesn't really work without an account. Projects like Nitter solved that.

Especially annoying when Twitter is a source for something.

dadoum36 minutes ago
A half of Twitter's point for me was the trending section, that you don't have any control on now (you used to be able to disable the personalization of that section but since X you cannot, if you want the actual trends you need to go in a subsection). The whole section is full personalized ragebaits (because at some point I used to reply to those), now it just makes the experience of trends quite unbearable and I can't change that.
jandrese6 minutes ago
Even if you tried to ignore ragebait the X algorithm is going to prioritize them because it is highly tuned to promote high engagement content. Any given feed is going to have white supremacy, flat Earth, climate change denial, immigrant hate, vaccine harms, and of course Elon shilling for his AI products.
angoragoats41 minutes ago
Sir, you are voluntarily using a website owned by an unstable Nazi, who purchased it because his feelings were hurt and people were making fun of him there. Now his brain droppings make it into everyone’s feed by default, from what I understand.

> There are news that are circulating much faster on Twitter than anywhere else (for example about war in Ukraine).

I am certain that Twitter is not the only place where you can find these updates, if you really care for up-to-the-minute news. But I don’t.

> There are people and companies that post only on Twitter and nowhere else (especially in tech).

These people and companies are (knowingly or unknowingly) supporting a Nazi billionaire and they are not worth paying any attention to until they change their behavior.

baxuz20 minutes ago
It's incredible how this comment is downvoted for stating facts
sliqqq10 minutes ago
Everybody who's not totally limited in their mindsets. Twitter/X is uncensored. I think open minds who are hungry for the raw, real truth prefer such platform, rather than one that's regulated by one political party of one particular country.
phoghedabout 1 hour ago
Reddit is worse imo just because of how the site is structured and the power of mods.
vintermann7 minutes ago
Reddit voted itself out of my attention by requiring login for old.reddit.com browsing.
philipallstar39 minutes ago
Yes - community notes were a surprisingly decent alternative to more gameable authority structures.
jandrese5 minutes ago
Community notes tend to be a day late and a dollar short though.
angoragoats39 minutes ago
Option A: You occasionally encounter power tripping mods on a site where you are free to create your own community and become the mod yourself.

Option B: a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire owns the entire site and can change the site behavior for every user on a whim, with no recourse.

This doesn’t seem like a hard choice to make.

phoghed14 minutes ago
An echo chamber isn’t inherently bad, and moderation is required to maintain any semblance of a well functioning online community.

Reddit can be good if you stay in your niche and off the default subs. Twitter is good if you similarly curate your experience and don’t let it push you into garbage.

I don’t use either much anymore.

dist-epoch10 minutes ago
> a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire

Are you anti-drugs? Do you think drug users are bad people or using drugs is condemnable? I'm asking because anti-fascists are typically pro-drugs. So I'm confused.

majorchord23 minutes ago
Hundreds of millions of active daily users. Snobby tech nerds who care about privacy and morals are a niche of a niche, relatively speaking.
haunter38 minutes ago
Unbeatable (just like reddit) if you want live sport replays. /r/soccer uploads goals before it happens on the broadcast I watch on my TV

Also the Asian community (Korea, Japan etc) is incredibly strong on Twitter. They don't really care about the whole politics around the platform.

docdeekabout 2 hours ago
There’s likely some information on there that some people must want to share if services like Xcancel and Nitter exist and allow you to share it without being on X itself.
expedition3217 minutes ago
There are unfortunately a few times a year that I need to read something posted on Instagram, Facebook or X.

And they all require accounts that I don't want to have.

alexnewmanabout 2 hours ago
And hacker news is a diverse pluralistic utopia
VCFundedGenYerabout 1 hour ago
I thought "reddit moments" were bad, I never thought there'd be something worse.
spiderfarmerabout 2 hours ago
Whataboutisms do nothing to refute genuine criticisms.
phoghedabout 1 hour ago
If someone thinks Twitter is an echo chamber to the extent they can’t fathom how people tolerate it (and it isn’t just an appeal for easy upvotes), but they happily post on HN, they’ll be able to clear up their initial confusion with a bit of self reflection.
miesesabout 1 hour ago
what about throwing stones in glass houses now?
HarlequinHairabout 2 hours ago
General sentiment might be this, but every social network (even Instagram and Facebook) can be good and productive if you change how you use them.

If you follow specific profiles/channels/pages and just read the feeds from them as if they were news, you are removing the toxic part (mostly infinite scrolling) and getting a resourceful feature.

If for some reason someone you need to follow is on X (twitter) only, you have to choose between losing a source or compromise with the platform.

I personally belong to the former group (and possibly you do, too), leaving behind sources, but not everyone likes it that way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

vvillenaabout 1 hour ago
The platform compromise is a new thing. One of the reasons people used Twitter was its open nature, enabling its use as a bulletin board where anyone could post a message and being sure that the message link was free for anyone to see. This isn't the case anymore, as X forces people to make accounts to see messages.
spiderfarmerabout 2 hours ago
> you have to choose between losing a source or compromise with the platform

I thought so too. But after leaving 3 years ago it turns out: Not a single source is that important.

Also, as the importance increases, the likelihood of seeing the same information outside that hellhole increases linearly.

secretsatanabout 2 hours ago
But it’s still supporting a man who’s a toxic as they come and working hard to distort reality and undermine democracy, you won’t wash that toxic off.
philipallstar37 minutes ago
Allowing more voices on the platform might've made it more toxic (who knows - you're not the judge of toxic) but at least we have left- and right-wing toxicity, instead of only left-wing. And we get a lot of additional non-toxic voices, which was the actual point.
Tepixabout 2 hours ago
Some AI bros refuse to leave
spiderfarmerabout 2 hours ago
If someone is still on twitter I'm just going to assume their morals align with those of Musk.

And then I avoid them.

strusabout 1 hour ago
> And then I avoid them.

Hacker News and basically everyone from YC have an official profile on Twitter: https://x.com/hackernews

himata4113about 2 hours ago
urgh, there goes my automatic redirect... any alternatives?

Although, I don't see how this will hold up in court as they're pretty much an archive-like site hosting UGC.

r721about 2 hours ago