TiVo to charge money for skipping commercials in your own recordings

ddmitrygr about 4 hours ago 17 commentsRead Article on cordcuttersnews.com

ES version is available. Content is displayed in original English for accuracy.

⚡ Community Insights

Discussion Sentiment

80% Positive

Analyzed from 593 words in the discussion.

Discussion (17 Comments)Read Original on HackerNews

hliyan•about 1 hour ago

I argued this in 2015:

> "...why I believe you will not escape ads by paying for your content: people who can afford to pay for content are people with money, or people with buying power, in other words, the exact same people advertisers look to target. The more buying power you demonstrate, the more advertisers will target you. So the more you pay to keep ads away, the more advertisers will pay to put them back in..."

V99•about 2 hours ago

My parents still have a couple, but I think most people's reaction to this is "TiVo still exists?" CableCARDs are going extinct and there are lots of other options to record OTA these days.

dspillett•9 minutes ago

> TiVo still exists?

Not for long. They stopped making hardware a while ago, this feels like the last ditch attempt to find a new business model that works, before it doesn't and what is left of the company is bought and asset stripped (the key remaining asset likely being what data they hold about their customers).

jjav•about 1 hour ago

> "TiVo still exists?"

Certainly that's my reaction that made me click on this. Hard to believe.

Never used TiVo but I ran a MythTV box for a long time, it was really awesome. But it's been ~15+ years or so haven't used it. Can't believe TiVo still exists.

walrus01•about 1 hour ago

Once again PLEASE DRINK A VERIFICATION CAN (note this is from 2013, and while its origin is as a shitpost, it's prophetic)

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/632877-halo-4/66477630

reedf1•about 2 hours ago

Reads like an onion article. I've gone to great lengths to avoid ads - but it's a war I am losing. Content is now interleaved with ads at the creative stage in subtle (and not so subtle) ways, this inexorable convolution occurs even on formerly alternative spaces. Let me pay, I want to pay, I'll pay a lot, just stay out of my fucking head.

Leonard_of_Q•about 1 hour ago

> I've gone to great lengths to avoid ads - but it's a war I am losing. Content is now interleaved with ads at the creative stage...

In the end you'll win this war, maybe not in the way you envisioned but win it you will by avoiding 'content' altogether. There is more than enough to read, listen to, see and do that you don't need 'content' to keep you satisfied. Drop it like the lukewarm turd it is and you'll be better off while they can hide their ads where the sun don't shine.

Source: living ad- and 'content'-free for decades

sublinear•10 minutes ago

I think back on when I consumed the most "content". It was way back before I worked from home. The peer pressure was a significant part of why.

I agree with you otherwise, though.

saturn8601•about 2 hours ago

Just in case you don't know the SponsorBlock extension can skip past Youtube interleaved ads, promotional items other time wasters. You can pick and choose what you want to skip and in the Youtube Interface you can also press a button to automatically go past a skipped item you wanted to see. [1]:https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Also hate clickbait title cards? Theres now an extension to remove those as well: https://dearrow.ajay.app/

This SponsorBlock extension also integrates with yt-dlp so downloaded videos can have ads stripped in the final video. That way you don't even have to ever go to youtube itself. The war isn't over yet and people must keep fighting back.

fercircularbuf•about 2 hours ago

Yeah, I pay for youtube so I don't have to watch ads, but then youtube creators at some point all decided to jump on the bandwagon of interleaving ads into their content. Many are kind enough to make it easy to jump ahead to when the ad is over, but man, I would much prefer they set up a patreon or just let me pay them through youtube's own UI. Incredibly annoying.

PlunderBunny•6 minutes ago

The only winning move is not to play.

Freak_NL•about 1 hour ago

What is keeping you hooked to that type of content?

theginger•about 1 hour ago

This is a really good example of how capitalism doesn't work so well in a digital economy. Normally there is are various arguments about how the subscription pays for the development / invitation. But here we have a feature that's been there for more than a decade, the only innovation is figuring how to monetize it.

gblargg•about 1 hour ago

Isn't this because it's not a free market, e.g. the DMCA and other laws that prevent publishing how to work around digital locks?

agileAlligator•about 1 hour ago

Yep. IP is not true "property" either, since it is not "scarce"

xiaodai•about 1 hour ago

can't believe tivo is still around.

tech234a•30 minutes ago

They stopped selling new units and lifetime subscriptions about a year ago.