Neki

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xyzzy_plugh•9 minutes ago

I love how the Planetscale CEO has been shitting on multigres[0], Supabase's equivalent to Neki, and gloating about how superior Neki is, and yet Neki is not even open source!

Sam, it feels like you're just playing games. It's hard to take anything you say or do seriously. Are you going to OSS this thing? Or have you decided to backpedal?

Congrats on the checks notes closed launch, I guess?

0: https://github.com/multigres/multigres

samlambert•8 minutes ago

How does open source have anything to do with Neki's ability to scale against a service that doesn't even do sharding.

gk1•about 2 hours ago

Folks, in your launch posts remember to describe what you're launching and what it's for. Ideally in the opening paragraph.

- Intro: Explains problem but not what is Neki or what it's for.

- Why Neki: Explains alternatives and why they suck but not what is Neki or what it's for.

- How does Neki work: Describes the technical components but not what is Neki or what it's for.

- What you get beyond sharding: Explains how to run/deploy but not what is Neki or what it's for.

- What is a platform preview + Try Neki today: 140 words on the definition of "preview" and links to get started... but not what is Neki or what it's for.

Edit: The landing page has 100x more useful information up front -> https://neki.dev/

Edit #2: They've since added a "What is Neki" section. Good reaction time.

DrammBA•41 minutes ago

Folks, your blog post sucks at marketing.

Edit: your marketing site actually has excellent marketing information.

dwb•41 minutes ago

The landing page which is linked at the start of the second sentence of this page…? I don’t completely disagree with you, but this is mostly hypertext working as intended, is it not?

fastball•20 minutes ago

Yeah this meta commentary on HN is very confusing for me. The structure of the article is literally

- short paragraph saying "we launched neki"

- short paragraph saying why neki was needed

- paragraphs about what neki is

That seems like a very reasonable structure for a blog post like this one. Not being able to get to the third paragraph of a blog post seems like a "you" problem, not a blog problem.

parthdesai•17 minutes ago

The tech might be amazing, but the CEO comes across as an asshole

tombert•14 minutes ago

Genuine question, since I'm a little out of the loop; why do you say that?

parthdesai•13 minutes ago

https://x.com/samlambert/status/2098069474205470970?s=20

https://x.com/samlambert/status/2098075451373834681?s=20

samlambert•6 minutes ago

nothing i have said is untrue. a founder of a company leaving to compete out of greed is a bad thing and i am glad to call it out.

kaycebasques•about 1 hour ago

I am on a 12 Muni right now that is plastered with a Neki ad, and I looked up neki.dev literally 10 mins ago to see what this product is about. Did they time the release of this bus ad with the launch date?

kelp•about 1 hour ago

Bus ads have been running for a little while now. A few billboards around too.

dvtkrlbs•39 minutes ago

Is this going to be open sourced? I thought this was the plan at the start. But ow I am confused.

ripe•about 1 hour ago

Neki is a sharded Postgres implementation. It introduces one level of indirection between the application and the Postgres shards.

Found this from neki.dev.

fastball•24 minutes ago

You can also find that in first section of the linked post (after the intro)...

khy•about 2 hours ago

Man, I was deep into this blog post before I was able to answer the question "what is Neki?".

imjosh-dev•about 2 hours ago

https://neki.dev/ is a much more terse overview of neki

1121redblackgo•16 minutes ago

Now that's a nice release page.

ahknight•about 1 hour ago

If I don't know what I'm reading about by the third or fourth phrase, I skip it. Empty language comes from empty minds and I don't have time for that.

tjohnell•about 2 hours ago

A C2 level diagram included in the blog post would be helpful. What are the drawbacks to using Neki aside from the obvious (new software has bugs)?

arrowleaf•28 minutes ago

The first thing I want to know when looking at a distributed system is how consistency is handled, ctrl+f for "consis" on both the blog post and neki.dev has zero hits. So I can only assume it will have eventual consistency with a considerable replica lag for real-time systems.

xnx•about 2 hours ago

What does this compete with? Google Cloud SQL?

jbonatakis•34 minutes ago

Multigres is the one that comes to mind

kelp•21 minutes ago

Once they implement sharding...

jbonatakis•20 minutes ago

Yet. But it’s built by the guy who created Vitess and cofounded PlanetScale, so while it doesn’t have sharding implemented at the moment I think it would be foolish to discount it. Plus it’s open source.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs•about 2 hours ago

Will this be open source at some point?

behole•about 2 hours ago

Site design is tight. I like it.