Child Sexual Abuse Material Persists on X

mmplanchard about 3 hours ago 32 commentsRead Article on nytimes.com

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mplanchard•about 3 hours ago

The newsworthy thing here, IMO, is that they don’t even seem to be checking images against the NCMEC database

> The U.S. national center shares digital fingerprints with major technology companies so they can scan and remove the imagery. The center’s list is used by Google and Meta, among others. About a third of the images found by The Times were from that list.

mitxela•about 2 hours ago

NCMEC won't share that database with almost anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if they denied it to Elon.

mikeyouse•about 1 hour ago

They were using it in 2024..

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2024-01-31_-_...

londons_explore•about 2 hours ago

It also has a fairly high false positive rate, and due to the nature of the content paying someone to verify false positives is near impossible both legally and morally.

dragonwriter•36 minutes ago

“We can’t fight child porn on our platform because it is less moral to run a scanner that may produce false positives and either accept that this may result in blocking some content that isn’t child porn OR pay someone to look at content and verify whether or not it is child porn, so instead we just do the far more moral thing of allowing and profiting from the distribution of child porn" is an interesting, if not exactly convincing, argument.

rationalist•about 2 hours ago

I'm surprised Twitter didn't implement it earlier (before it was bought and rebranded to X).

Also, is The Times admitting they were in possession of the illegal pictures? Does Freedom of the Press protect against that?

iAMkenough•about 1 hour ago

I think they’re saying Elon is in possession of it, and they were able to verify it via file hashing compared against the national database.

Are you suggesting the national database maintainers are in possession of illegal pictures and should also have their rights questioned?

NDlurker•about 1 hour ago

Off topic, but gore should be treated the same way legally

ZpJuUuNaQ5•30 minutes ago

Because? Death is an inevitable part of life. If anything, it reminds you appreciate you feeble existence a little more.

UltraSane•38 minutes ago

Why? What about surgical videos?

ShinyLeftPad•33 minutes ago

What about them?

UltraSane•18 minutes ago

They are very gory.

NDlurker•about 1 hour ago

I get downvoted whenever I bring this up but nobody has a good argument on why it should remain legal.

ZpJuUuNaQ5•30 minutes ago

Anybody has a good argument why it should be illegal?

throwaway85825•26 minutes ago

Arguably the average person needs to be exposed to more gore lest they become dangerously detached from the real world. People who live in sanitized bubbles end up creating systems that kill far more people because they cannot see the results of their actions. China censors all violent crime, it's basically illegal to report on. How do you think that's working out?

OroPla•about 1 hour ago

Can someone explain why the goal is only to remove the images and not go after whoever posted them? You'd think the pool of posters would eventually shrink to zero.

happymellon•36 minutes ago

> not go after whoever posted them?

What makes you think they aren't?

OroPla•23 minutes ago

Because it's not mentioned anywhere who posted the images in the first place and which prison he or she is now living in.

The complaint in the article is about not taking down the images faster than within an hour.

mulemisterX•about 1 hour ago

The only conclusion I can come to at this point is that it's a honeypot.

kelseyfrog•about 1 hour ago

POSIWID.

PeterStuer•about 2 hours ago

I thought all maps moved to bluesky?

rationalist•about 2 hours ago

It took me a bit to realize you mean "MAPs" (so-called "Minor Attracted Persons") and not cartographical instruments.

r_lee•about 1 hour ago

I don't think that "label" even applies if they're posting such content

hightrix•about 1 hour ago

It shouldn't be a label at all. Pedofiles should be called as such, or worse.

gamblor956•31 minutes ago

Not surprising.

Musk displayed uncommonly detailed knowledge of the Southeast Asian child sex trade in the aftermath of the Thai Cave Crisis. It's not a big stretch to allowing CSAM on his own social media network.

mplanchard•about 3 hours ago

https://archive.is/pdKjA

2OEH8eoCRo0•about 2 hours ago

Twitter/X should be held liable.

bigyabai•about 1 hour ago

*taps the sign*

  Repealing Section 230 When You Disagree With It Creates An Even Bigger Incentive For Abuse

2OEH8eoCRo0•about 1 hour ago

I think that it should be repealed or reworked because it is clearly not working.

cyanydeez•about 2 hours ago

Surely, X should be shut down by some act of god.

bigyabai•about 1 hour ago

For the government to subsequently reopen it?

There has never been a more blatant honeypot in the history of American social media.