New synthesis of astronomical measurements shows Hubble tension is real

bgoated01•1 day ago

> “This isn’t just a new value of the Hubble constant,” the collaboration notes, “it’s a community-built framework that brings decades of independent distance measurements together, transparently and accessibly.”

Don't love that I can't read sentences like this without wondering if an LLM was involved.

SoftTalker•1 day ago

Yeah it's sort of an LLM smell but honestly the models learned that pattern because it's common in the training data. People write that way because it sounds like they're revealing something profound.

monkpit•1 day ago

LLM inference does not just regurgitate the training corpus; RLHF is almost certainly to blame for this. There’s probably some Google n-gram graph to prove it.

Shitty-kitty•1 day ago

Nobody seriously doubts the "tension" anymore. The analysis is good.

The question is are there systemic errors. Chief among them is whether our ability to infer the distance to objects billions of light years away is truly as good as we think it is.

DevelopingElk•1 day ago

According to the article “This work effectively rules out explanations of the Hubble tension that rely on a single overlooked error in local distance measurements". So any systemic errors would need to affect multiple measurement types.

Shitty-kitty•1 day ago

Definitely a good first step if their research holds up. Given the huge implications thou, it is unlikely to sway opinions much.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

samus•1 day ago

We don't just use one single method to infer distances. TA is about that there are multiple methods, and that the framework is open for new ones. What is more likely at fault is the underlying model of how the cosmos developed, which is highly likely to be incomplete or misguided.

Shitty-kitty•1 day ago

Actually is quite the opposite. If the difference in expansion between the early and late universe is real than the reigning cosmological model lambda-CDM will at least have to be revised, or be replaced with a model that made that prediction (there are several of them)

userbinator•1 day ago

That stuck out at me too, along with the em-dashes above.

jiggawatts•1 day ago

English version: https://noirlab.edu/public/news/noirlab2611/?nocache=true&

smitty1e•1 day ago

Went to Spanish.

magicalhippo•1 day ago

If I click EN it goes here:

https://noirlab.edu/public/news/noirlab2611/?nocache=true&la...

jiggawatts•1 day ago

That explains why the original link is broken, the language selector on the whole site must be broken!

New synthesis of astronomical measurements shows Hubble tension is real

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