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phtrivierabout 20 hours ago
> Albania, Bhutan, Nepal, Paraguay, Iceland, Ethiopia and the Democratic Republic of Congo produced more than 99.7 per cent of the electricity they consumed using geothermal, hydro, solar or wind power.

Let's head to electricitymaps.com !

Albania (https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/AL/live/fifteen_min...)

- On 2026-04-12 16:45 GMT+2, 22,67% of electricity consumed by Albania is imported from Greece, which generates 22% of its electricity from gas. Interestingly, Albania exports about as much to Montenegro as it imports from Greece.

Bhutan:

- 100% hydro, makes perfect sense

Nepal:

- 98% hydro, a bit of solar for good measure

Iceland:

- 70% hydro, 30% geo

Paraguay:

- 99,9% hydro

Ethiopia:

- 96,4% hydro

DRC

- 99.6% hydro

So, the lessons for all other countries in the world is pretty clear: grow yourselves some mountains, dig yourselves a big river, and dam, baby, dam !!

(I'm kidding, but I'm sure someone has a pie-in-the-sky geoengineering startup about to disrupt topography using either AI, blockchain, or both.)

input_shabout 19 hours ago
I guess somewhat of a fun fact: Albania has rented(!) two floating(!) oil-powered power plants near the city of Vlöre that are there in case of emergency. The last time they were really needed was in 2022 (if I remember correctly), but these days they're not turned on any more than they need to be to make sure they're operating properly. That very expensive backup system is basically the only non-renewable source in the whole country, and most of the time it's just sitting there doing nothing.

Being powered almost entirely by hydro means that the system is highly susceptible to droughts, so then they either have to spin up those oil plants from time to time or import electricity from abroad. I think it's also worth pointing out that nothing really changed because of climate change, the decision to rely on hydro was made in the 90s. The country used to have its own oil power plant that it heavily relied on before that decision, which slowly produced less and less until it was shut down for good in 2007. Some images of it from 2019: https://www.oneman-onemap.com/en/2019/06/26/the-abandoned-po...

graemepabout 16 hours ago
Sri Lanka used to rely on hydro, with oil as a backup, and has added a lot of coal.

I wonder how many other countries are increasing non-renewable output?

donkyrfabout 9 hours ago
Sri Lanka has only one coal power plant (construction began 2006), and the later coal project was canceled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Sri_...

bartvkabout 15 hours ago
Not increasing but cancelling plans on phasing out. Here in The Netherlands, an absolutely minuscule country of ~18 million people, two coal plants will remain online that previously would've been phased out.
PaulDavisThe1stabout 15 hours ago
> I think it's also worth pointing out that nothing really changed because of climate change, the decision to rely on hydro was made in the 90s.

Why do you think it is worth pointing this out?

Supermanchoabout 13 hours ago
To assuage any implication that the conversion was based on that concern?

It's helpful to know that there are economics and environmental concerns outside of an existential threat, to galvanize a country's momentum.

input_shabout 5 hours ago
Mostly because when the title says "seven countries now generate...", it sure makes it look like there was some sort of a recent development made in response to climate change, and not something that would've been the case regardless.
direwolf20about 19 hours ago
And this is an expected problem with renewables that can be engineered around. It's unlikely the whole world has a drought at once during a calm night, so developing ways to transmit power long distances will be important.
ambicapterabout 18 hours ago
Or just use nuclear as base load, and battery storage as much as you can.
pstuartabout 19 hours ago
Which absolutely should be done, but having energy sovereignty is never a bad thing.
izacusabout 18 hours ago
Having a continent-wide draught (or cold winter or other weather effect) is rather common though. Just a few years back Europe had a massive issue where draught caused both drop of hydro production and cooling for French nukes, causing energy prices to spike.
Shitty-kittyabout 18 hours ago
Funny, TAP runs straight-thru Albania. They could just build a gas power station. Of course rented rigs line the pockets much better.
Tepixabout 17 hours ago
Why would they want to do that?
indigo945about 3 hours ago

    (I'm kidding, but I'm sure someone has a pie-in-the-sky geoengineering startup 
    about to disrupt topography using either AI, blockchain, or both.)
Well, there was that plan to use scores of nuclear bombs to alter the geography of Egypt in such a way that the Mediterranean could be drained into the Qattara Basin [1]. I think the story is somewhat well-known now, but it proves, at least, that pie-in-the-sky geoengineering startups are not a phenomenon unique to the 21st century. And given that nuclear bombs essentially were the blockchain of the 1950s, that is altogether unsurprising.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression_Project#Fri...

valgazeabout 3 hours ago
https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/453701

“Use of Nuclear Explosions for Excavation of Sea-Level Canal Across the Negev Desert”

whatsupdogabout 3 hours ago
> And given that nuclear bombs essentially were the blockchain of the 1950s

They were not destructive enough.

WinstonSmith84about 19 hours ago
fun fact for Paraguay: the Itaipu Dam is one of the largest in the world located between Brazil and Paraguay, where each country gets 50% of the production. But 50% of that production for Paraguay, a country of 7 millions inhabitants, means that it cannot consume that much, so it's essentially reselling that energy to Brazil, a country with 30x more inhabitants. Paraguay only uses about 1/3 of its share (and thus resells 2/3 to Brazil).
nevesabout 19 hours ago
And it means that it has been oil free since the 70's.

Brazil, a continental country, has more than 80% of its energy from renewables

ptmanabout 18 hours ago
Oil free for electricity generation. The media in my country (Finland) also likes to brag about 90+% fossil-free electricity generation. But electricity is under half (30%?40%?) and the rest of that energy isn't fossil-free.
pelasacoabout 1 hour ago
Yes, https://www.iea.org/countries/brazil

Put the meme of Macron with an old picture saying Brazil is BURNING THE AMAZON

perlgeekabout 4 hours ago
Another fun fact: There's a second big dam that supplies Paraguay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacyret%C3%A1_Dam

It's also a two-country joint venture, this time with Argentina. And again, Paraguay uses much less of the electricity than its bigger partner.

geoduck14about 17 hours ago
>So, the lessons for all other countries in the world is pretty clear: grow yourselves some mountains, dig yourselves a big river, and dam, baby, dam !!

It is a relief that Environmentalists have decided that hydro counts as "renewable" energy! When I was in school, hydro was considered really bad for the environment, and projects like the Hoover dam and Yangzie River dam were "not helping"

psychoslaveabout 17 hours ago
They certainly can be disastrous in ecological terms, and will disrupt all biotopes along the concerned water flows.

But it's extremely renewable none the less.

peterashfordabout 11 hours ago
Its local environmental damage versus global environmental gains
Gareth321about 2 hours ago
Many environmentalists seem completely unwilling to acknowledge the concept of tradeoffs. Unless a solution is 100% perfect in every way, they reject it. Or at least, the committees and infighting become so protracted that they cannot agree no a solution. This is true of our world today. We have limited resources with which to address things like pollution and emissions. We should be focusing on the most impactful changes first, posing the fewest costs. Nothing has zero cost.
setsewerdabout 16 hours ago
Reminds me of when Bjork was protesting the construction of a new hydropower plant in Iceland, when the Director of Iceland's National power company (behind the project) was actually her uncle. I used to be romantically involved with someone in his side of the family and noticed Bjork was conspicuously absent from any family gatherings he hosted, of which there were many.
jacquesmabout 19 hours ago
And have either a small population or a very low per-person energy budget.

But: 7 isn't the number that matters, what matters is that next year it will be 8 or 9. That would be worth documenting.

tyfonabout 19 hours ago
There are a few countries just below as well like Norway with about 98% renewables in 2024 [1]. The gas power plant is mostly up north powering the gas compressors that fill LNG ships headed for Europe and the coal I think is for Svalbard but that mine/plant closed in 2025 [2].

[1] https://www.nve.no/energi/energisystem/energibruk/stroemdekl...

[2] https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/norges-siste-kullgruve-pa...

ZeroGravitasabout 18 hours ago
With modern tech, these 100% renewable electricity countries have effectively overshot. Many other countries would be better off getting to 85% and then shifting to focusing more on EV and heat pump uptake to get the best bang per buck.
jacquesmabout 18 hours ago
Quite a few developed countries have privatized their electrical grids. The effects - predictable - were rent seeking behavior without the necessary investments to remain future proof. This is now catching up with us in a big way, the electrification is going to lag behind considerably on account of this.

I wrote about that in 2016, https://jacquesmattheij.com/the-problem-with-evs/ , and even though the situation has improved it has not improved as much as it should have.

This is quite frustrating because it is blindingly obvious to me that we will need to do better but given the profit angle it remains to be seen if these private entities will now do what's right for all of us. So far the signs are not good. Instead of embracing small scale generation utilities are fighting netmetering laws where ever they can (usually under the guise of not everybody being able to have solar, which is true, but which is not the real reason behind their objections). They're dragging their heels on expansion and modernization of grid infrastructure and the government(s) seem to be powerless to force the now out-of-control entities to live up to their responsibilities.

Couple that with the AI power hungry data centers and the stage is set for a lot of misery. Personally I think privatizing the electrical grid was a massive mistake. The market effects have not really happened, all that happened is that the money that should have gone into new infra has been spent on yachts and other shiny rock goodies.

lxgrabout 14 hours ago
Don't you need even more than 100% (of your prior consumption) to remain renewable if you also switch to EVs and heat pumps? Why would 85% be enough?
happosaiabout 19 hours ago
Well hydropower is the "easy" level of the decarbonization game. So it's not really surprising first countries to leave fossil fuels behind are also countries with mountains and rivers.
ignoramousabout 9 hours ago
> not really surprising first countries to leave fossil fuels behind are also countries with mountains and rivers

What's surprising is countries sharing natural resources are among the pioneers, despite the geopolitical implication... like Ethiopia testing the Egyptian waters by building dams on the Nile.

hunterpayneabout 4 hours ago
Maybe you should lookup when these damns were built. I wouldn't be surprised if in 1970 there were also 9 countries who didn't use any FFs. Same 9 countries of course. If you can build hydro you do. Problem is, we already have them everywhere they can be. And even now, hydro is only about 10% of all electric power production worldwide.
kilzimirabout 2 hours ago
Portugal doesn't have any mountains and most of the electricity still comes from hydro! (Not saying you can build hydro everywhere, but you certainly don't need the Himalayas)
JoBradabout 19 hours ago
Or, more charitably: use the Strangler Fig method to modernize your systems, and start with low-hanging fruit.
lostloginabout 13 hours ago
> 22,67% of electricity consumed by Albania is imported from Greece, which generates 22% of its electricity from gas. Interestingly, Albania exports about as much to Montenegro as it imports from Greece.

There is solar on my roof. It makes about 125% what we use, but we import power from the grid every day, usually early am before the sun is up, or most days in winter.

In summer we are fully charged and exporting from about 1pm-6pm, with the line out maxed (at a pitiful 5kW, screw you Vector. New Zealand).

I’d guess Albania has the same issue when it isn’t sunny.

3abitonabout 13 hours ago
> So, the lessons for all other countries in the world is pretty clear: grow yourselves some mountains, dig yourselves a big river, and dam, baby, dam !!

You're forgetting corruption. Many countries can easily go 100% renewable, but there is no profit for dictators/politicians to do so. Most of africa, or the middle east, yet you still have many regions without electricity or water, so that people worry about food for tomorrow instead of better governance in the future.

hunterpayneabout 4 hours ago
"Many countries can easily go 100% renewable"

Sorry but no. There are several major issues with that if you want your power to stay on all the time. Storage would be needed which even for the smallest countries on this list would require over a years worth of worldwide battery production. And grid stabilization would be almost impossible and that's just for starters. All 9 of these countries are mostly hydro. The renewables in this case are almost incidental. Also these dams were built decades ago for reasons that have nothing to do with the environment.

harrouetabout 2 hours ago
100%

Writing such an article without mentioning nuclear power is a sign of dishonesty.

Wind and solar can't live alone, since they only operate when nature wants it. Perfect match for hydro, but we don't all live in the Hymalaya. Most (e.g. Germany) burn gas and coal to supplement.

Nuclear is the only tech suited for decarbonation, and once you have it, you don't need solar and power because 95% of the cost is in the construction. Since you'll build it to sustain peak demand, wind or solar are just extra costs.

WarmWashabout 19 hours ago
I'm wondering how this picture holds up if we include cooking and water heating.
BigGreenJortsabout 19 hours ago
And cars. Lots of diesel in Albania.
Sharlinabout 17 hours ago
I guess if you're not allowed to use solar in the form of chemical potentials frozen long ago into carbon-y molecules buried underground, the second best thing is to use solar in the form of gravitational potential stored in water molecules that's constantly getting replenished because the planet just happens to work like that.
KellyCriterionabout 19 hours ago
wasnt New Zealand also already far up beyond 90% renewable electricity a couple of years ago?
direwolf20about 19 hours ago
They are blessed with all three of hydro, geothermal, and wind.
bogeholmabout 16 hours ago
Do we have many countries around where wind is not a thing?
cm2187about 12 hours ago
Also half of these countries have frequent outages. Not sure it is much of an example for anyone else (though I frequently hear experts advocating for outages in western countries, i.e. you won't be able to run your washing machine when you need it, it will be up to how much electricity there in the grid - they call that progress).
Flere-Imsahoabout 17 hours ago
Hydro electricity is also one of the most dangerous forms of energy production:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Banqiao_Dam_failure

(This is the worst disaster, but could put Chernobyl to shame?)

Full list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hydroelectric_power_st...

lxgrabout 14 hours ago
Sure, if you consider only local dangers and don't care at all about regional or global externalities.
iso1631about 16 hours ago
Well most dangerous apart from coal, oil, gas, biomass?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/death-rates-from-energy-p...

And that's before you bring into the deaths due to climate change

Flere-Imsahoabout 16 hours ago
I should have pre-fixed it with "out of renewable energy".
pelasacoabout 1 hour ago
wondering why isn't Brazil in this list https://www.iea.org/countries/brazil
dagurpabout 13 hours ago
Iceland has been selling credits aggressively so my electric bill will include nuclear and coal power
LastTrainabout 18 hours ago
They worked within the constraints of their own topography - good and bad - to make it work. That is too hard for everyone else?
phtrivier14 minutes ago
It is indeed harder if you topography writes off certain kind of electricity production.

But of course, good for them that they used their mountains / rivers ! All all power to them to electrify their economies if they have surplus ! And even better if they can use some reservoirs and pump to store, because it means they can diversify their productions by adding wind / solar and store a lot, until batteries of seasonal scale become more widespread.

littlestymaarabout 16 hours ago
> So, the lessons for all other countries in the world is pretty clear: grow yourselves some mountains, dig yourselves a big river, and dam, baby, dam !!

Came to say that, every time you'll see a country running on 100% renewables for an extended period, it's going to be hydro, because it's the only controllable supply among renewables (with geothermal as well, but it's been so niche so far I put it aside, but I hope it will change).

Unfortunately most of the hype and investments go to solar and wind power, which fundamentally don't offer the same capabilities. (Solar is fine as long as you're in q sunny place that is not in Europe though because it can be predictable enough to be relied on, but Solar in above 40° North and wind are borderline scams at this point).

tootieabout 19 hours ago
I think they missed Uruguay which is a similar case. They have also traditionally benefitted from a hydro able to cover 80-90% most of their needs but they made a concerted effort to fill the entire remaining gap with wind and solar.
ZeroGravitasabout 18 hours ago
Recent video by someone from Puerto Rico comparing their island's renewables with Uruguay and interviewing the guy in charge of their renewables rollout:

https://youtu.be/TsmlyqZJOug

_blkabout 17 hours ago
Makes me wonder why solar is not on the list.. I thought all gore said that was gonna solve all energy problems. (Of course not, he's a politician, but I'd have expected to at least see it with some relevant percentage in the African countries) Or could it be that solar is distributed enough to not appear because it's set up directly by/with the consumer rather than the grid producer?
justsomehnguyabout 19 hours ago
For some it's an eye-opening experience when they compare the states which are the most vocal about going solar and have a look onto the solar map of the world.

Or then they talk about how some countries have miraculous levels of an energy independence and social services and then look at their total population.

ffsm8about 19 hours ago
Tbf, solar has gotten so much more effective/cost efficient in the last 12-24 months that it's beating pretty much everything aside from hydro in the cost efficiency department at this point - including (most of) northern Europe and Canada.

Most data you find will be using data that's massively out of date and be off by at least 2x though...

I had another facepalm moment when I read about EU planning to go nuclear again. That would've been amazing and smart in 2015 - but now? Yeah, it's dumb af. And that's coming from a German living at the northern end of the country.

mono442about 18 hours ago
Can batteries store enough energy for dunkelflaute in winter? I don't think it's possible with the current technology.
Moldoteckabout 18 hours ago
Germany spends 10x more than france on transmission and curtailment each year. Households have highest prices in EU per Eurostat despite EEG subsidies. Even if everything goes well gas expansion is still required to firm renewables. All this while it still burns coal and gas.

Going nuclear was sane in the past and sane now. If Germany wants to prove expanding nuclear is dumb it should try first to have lower annual emissions, while spending less than double the cost of entire french fleet.

France is the biggest winner in EU- it'll build both nuclear and renewables achieving deep decarbonization

wolfhumbleabout 11 hours ago
> I had another facepalm moment when I read about EU planning to go nuclear again. That would've been amazing and smart in 2015 - but now? Yeah, it's dumb af. And that's coming from a German living at the northern end of the country.

In 2015, Germany produced about 650 TWh of electricity. In 2025, it’s around 507 TWh, a drop of roughly 22–23%.

Consumption has also declined, mainly due to efficiency improvements, higher energy prices, and weaker industrial demand.

Per person, that’s about 7,900 kWh in 2015 vs ~6,000 kWh in 2025. France is at roughly 8,000 kWh per person today, so basically where Germany used to be.

This happened despite adding about 100 TWh from wind and solar combined over the same period.

Wind is still volatile and hasn’t really ramped much in recent years, while solar is growing steadily, but mostly helps in summer.

And that’s the core issue. Solar output in summer is roughly 3× higher than in winter, so just adding more solar doesn’t solve those cold, dark winter periods without massive storage or backup.

To get back to 2015 production levels of around 650 TWh, Germany would need to increase output by about 30%. With solar growing by roughly 13–14 TWh per year and wind not increasing much recently, that puts you close to a decade just to get back to where you were, while 2030 demand is already projected at 700–750 TWh.

Given that Germany still imports around 70% of its total energy, it’s hard to call it a “facepalm” to suggest nuclear as part of the mix.

Also worth noting that Germany is still slow on smart meter rollout, with only around 2% of metering points using smart metering systems so far. That limits how much consumers can respond to real-time prices. During tight periods, this can increase reliance on imports and contribute to higher prices in connected markets such as the Nordics.

jmyeetabout 15 hours ago
Ultragrav (YC S27). We plan on generating the geographic tyranny of who has rivers and mountains and who doesn't by seeking to use ultrasonic audio to disrupt gravity so you don't have to hear it. We're hiring in Kansas city, KS.

In all seriousness, thereis of course a list on Wikipedia of countries by renewable electricity production [1]. China leads here but also has 1.4B people and still has significant coal usage and oil and gas imports. But they're working really hard to wean themselves off of fossil fuels while still rapidly industrializing.

China does have mountains and has built the Three Gorges Dam, which is just massive and produces ~22GW. They're building a dam that'll produce almost three times as much power, the Medog Hydropower Station [2], which is planned for ~60GW.

The part that annoys me about a lot of developed nations is that they engage in greenwashing by simply exporting their emissions to poorer countries eg [3]. Let's at least be honest about what fossil fuels we continue to use and the emissions we indirectly create.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewable...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medog_Hydropower_Station

[3]: https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/4/18/1533104...

runakoabout 19 hours ago
Pushback against the outliers of small + blessed with hydro and geothermal is overshadowing real wins:

- California: 83% renewable, dominated by solar

- Spain: 73%, dominated by solar & wind

- Portugal: 90%, dominated by wind & solar

- The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind

- Great Britain: 71%, dominated by wind & solar

There's real momentum happening.

onlyrealcuzzoabout 18 hours ago
> California: 83% renewable, dominated by solar

California's grid is pretty decently balanced. Solar isn't even close to 50% - so saying that it "dominates" is pretty misleading.

It's like ~30% solar, ~12% hydro, ~10% wind, ~10% nuclear, all other renewables ~8% (~70% renewable, including nuclear) -> ~30% fossil fuels.

Are you maybe only counting domestic production and not total consumption? Or are you looking at the best time of the year and not the full year?

Or am I looking at sources that are >1 year out of date and in one year they've jumped from ~70% renewable to ~83%?

runakoabout 7 hours ago
EIA puts this out daily:

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/gridmonitor/dashboard/daily_...

Today was 31% solar, 16% wind, 16% hydro, 6% geothermal, etc.

Some of the difference to your numbers will be seasonal/weather-related, but the pace of solar and wind installation is such that data that's even a year or two old can be wildly out of date.

lokarabout 17 hours ago
AIUI, there has been excess solar at peak, but batteries have growing very fast. That might have caused a big change even in a year.
sesmabout 15 hours ago
Nuclear is not renewable though, those isotopes were created when some past generation star collapsed as supernova.
ZeWakaabout 15 hours ago
Solar will no longer be renewable in 5 billion years as well.
krupanabout 8 hours ago
And wood, coal, and oil are renewable. It's funny that we have fixated on "renewable" when carbon in the atmosphere is the problem, isn't it?
offmycloudabout 16 hours ago
California is not anywhere near 83% renewable for total electricity generation. [1] Are you just adding up nameplace capacities without capacity factors?

1. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=66704

runakoabout 7 hours ago
One thing about power generation stats like these is they are incredibly sensitive to examination dates given the rapid growth of (especially) solar.

That EIA site cuts off in August. The same EIA report shows solar grew 17% from 2024-2025. You can plug in your own assumptions to the solar growth curve since then, as well as your assumptions about the natural gas curve given the ride natgas has been on since August.

EIA also produces live status on the daily generation mix[1]. 69% today was wind, solar, geothermal, and hydro. 12% nuclear, so some of this is whether you consider nuclear renewable or not.

CA's power generation may cost more, but the pricing (for raw power at least) should be a lot more predictable than those of us dependent on fossil fuels. Natural gas, for example, has undergone a ~100% price round-trip in the last 12 months.

1 - https://www.eia.gov/electricity/gridmonitor/dashboard/daily_...

ZeroGravitasabout 1 hour ago
Behind the meter solar, on both homes and factories, is about 5% in California and that gets missed from these stats too.
dalyonsabout 12 hours ago
83 renewable isn’t right, but it’s up to 67% clean in 2025, which is still pretty impressive
dalyonsabout 17 hours ago
California is a huge success story at a massive scale. Looking at Casio right now it’s 92% clean energy. For a state of 39 million people! And batteries keep getting deployed faster and faster

2022 - 48% gas power on grid

2025 - 25% gas power on grid

What insane progress.

mpweiherabout 14 hours ago
Most expensive electricity in the contiguous United States. By quite a margin.

By contrast, Georgia, which has to pay for the "disastrous" Vogtle 3/4 nuclear construction project, pays less than half that.

Remember: disastrous nuclear projects are significantly better than renewable successes.

dalyonsabout 12 hours ago
Supply costs have surprisingly not that much to do with Californias silly electric rates. They load into the retail rates all kinds of disaster recovery costs, environmental blah blah costs, distribution upgrades, social programs, the list goes on. Plus straight old fashioned corruption in a state sponsored monopoly.

You can get some idea of the BS that gets loaded in by comparing some rates from municipal grids like SMUD vs pg&e. Same supply, fraction of the end user rate.

Anyway, that is to say theres very little useful to draw on here in comparing nuke to renewable cost.

hparadizabout 13 hours ago
That's part of why the shift to renewables. I have a 12kw system on my roof and I pay $220 in December and get $150 back in July.

The economics are getting interesting cause now you can get a 2kw hr battery for like $350 and plugin 400 watts of panel into it and run at least a laptop and basics peripherals forever so the draw on the grid is gonna diffuse over time.

runakoabout 7 hours ago
GA resident here. Let's not close the books on Vogtle yet, as our electricity rates are also moving up quite significantly. Let's get to a steady state before we declare a cost win.

IIRC our rates are up ~30% since 2024, and our electricity prices are 5th highest in the nation. I need to underline that this is in one of the lower-wage states in the country, with few state-level labor protections.

Also: the finances on Vogtle were sufficiently bad that they led to a rapid run-up in consumer electricity rates that generated political fallout. First: two members of the Public Service Commission lost their seats to Democrats, who do not generally win statewide races here. Second: the Federal government has had to specifically loan money to the operator to subsidize consumer rates. The Federal government could equally subsidize California rates down to the average or below if it so desired.

array_key_firstabout 9 hours ago
Electricity is cheap in Georgia because Georgia is generally not a desirable state for business. Electricity, along with a lot of others things, is expensive in California because it's California. There's a lot of talent in California, a lot of inertia, and a huge economy.
mrroperabout 12 hours ago
12 Billion in loan guarantees doesn't get paid in bills and isn't an accounting trick that costs nothing: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60682
rstuart4133about 9 hours ago
There is pushback here against the figures you are quoting.

Here is something real. South Australia electricity production averaged 75% from renewables last year. Wikipedia (for 2023) put it at 70%: "70 per cent of South Australia's electricity is generated from renewable sources. This is projected to be 85 per cent by 2026, with a target of 100 per cent by 2027." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_South_Australia They averaged 75% in 2025.

South Australia has no hydro to speak of. They have a some local gas, but no local coal. They do have good wind and solar resources. To me it looks like the transition was driven largely by immediate pragmatism concerns, as renewables are so much cheaper than gas. The politicians make a lot of noise about it of course, but I suspect if they had a local cheap source of coal the outcome would have been different.

Their electricity prices are high by Australian standards - but they have to pay for the gas they import to cover the missing 25%, and gas is by far the most expensive form of generation in Australia. And they are paying for all the new equipment this transition requires.

bopjesvlaabout 17 hours ago
> The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind

The Dutch bureau of statistics reports 50%, of which a plurality (one third) is biomass. The Netherlands is also famously gas-dependent. Natural gas isn’t converted to electricity for heating and many industrial applications. Can’t quickly find stats on production here, but renewables are only 17% of total energy usage. Renewables without biomass are ~12% of total energy usage.

bopjesvlaabout 16 hours ago
That’s just a random website. Dutch bureau of statistics:

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/rapportages/2025/hernieuwb...

thrdbndndnabout 8 hours ago
I failed to find the "86%" figure. The total energy mix shows "66% renewable".
IshKebababout 17 hours ago
This is just goalpost moving. Only a couple of decades ago we were at a solid 0% everywhere.
0123456789ABCDE24 minutes ago
hydro electric dams and wind turbines exist since, at least, the 1880s. [^1][^2]

and if wasn't for ronald reagan, the united states might have achieved 20% solar power energy production before the year 2000. [^3]

these are not new (two decade) technologies.

[^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity#History

[^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#History

[^3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power#Development_and_de...

bopjesvlaabout 16 hours ago
> The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind

The Netherlands: 50%, of which one third is biomass.

As someone living in the Netherlands, I would love to live in energy utopia, but stats reported by people who can’t read Dutch government reports are usually wrong.

NoLinkToMeabout 14 hours ago
Are you just drawing from today's figures? Or annual figures?

I just checked for NL and in the past 12 months it's 50/50 for electricity (fossil/renewable), with about 10% of the renewables being biomass which isn't particularly renewable.

For NL for example we import wood pellets from North America and then burn them. Yeah, not great. Essentially it's releasing emissions by burning 30-40 years of American forests, which might be replanted, and will have soaked up the Co2 around 2065. Therefore it gets to count those emissions as zero (renewable), despite having a full effect on climate change in the next half century which is critical. Not to mention there's a 15% roundtrip loss from logging, shipping etc.

Agree there's real momentum but these are misleading figures.

jacomoRodriguezabout 18 hours ago
Where can I look up this numbers? (Just curious)
arrosenbergabout 18 hours ago
For California, CAISO publishes a ton of data. Here is daily fuel mix - https://www.gridstatus.io/charts/fuel-mix?iso=caiso

You can also see Texas (ERCOT), New York and a few other operators.

marcocaccinabout 16 hours ago
This is a goldmine of data, how did you find out about it? Thank you so much for sharing
dyauspitrabout 8 hours ago
You’re a bit off on the California numbers. It’s off my about 10%. Either ways, what a state. It’s basically a country on its own.
vpribishabout 18 hours ago
good hilights! but - and i mean this kindly - you are starting to talk like an AI: "overshadowing real wins" "There's real momentum happening".
KevinMSabout 18 hours ago
Isn't that the list of high energy prices and blackouts?
rootusrootusabout 9 hours ago
Are you referring to California? IIRC the prices are driven by several factors, including expensive payouts for wildfire damage, but there isn't anything suggesting that renewables is a major factor. And rolling blackouts haven't been a thing since 2020. That might have been arguably related to renewables since they were experiencing abnormally hot climate change related heat waves that were extending into the evening hours and driving high air conditioning load beyond the time solar was prepared to handle it. I believe that in the meantime they've installed quite a number of batteries, which is why it is not a problem now.
tialaramexabout 15 hours ago
Although "Getting rid of cheaper electricity generation would make the electricity cheaper" is genuinely an actual right wing talking point in the UK it doesn't make any sense. The reason it's a talking point is that they're funded by billionaires who'd reap the rewards from new fossil fuel licensing. They know they can't deliver, but what they learned from Brexit is that their supporters aren't too smart and simple messages, even if nonsensical, resonate well with those voters. "Drill baby drill" is simple. Wrong, but simple.

Right now in a dark and not very windy UK w/ 10GW of gas burners running the spot price for electricity here is almost £150 per MWh, but at 10am it was sunny with a brisk wind and sure enough that spot price was about £25 per MWh. Gee, I wonder whether the wind and sun are cheaper...

philipallstarabout 12 hours ago
> Although "Getting rid of cheaper electricity generation would make the electricity cheaper" is genuinely an actual right wing talking point in the UK it doesn't make any sense

Can you cite this please?

Mordisquitosabout 21 hours ago
Specifically Albania, Bhutan, Nepal, Paraguay, Iceland, Ethiopia and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Not to downplay the positive steps that are being taken towards using renewable energy worldwide, but one must point out that all those countries except one are almost exclusively using hydroelectric power, whose availability at such scale is a geographical lottery. As for Iceland, which also relies mostly on hydroelectric power but not in such great a proportion, it makes up for it thanks to easy and abundantly available geothermal power (which, though environmentally friendly, is arguably not technically renewable).

IneffablePigeonabout 20 hours ago
Well yes, hydro and geothermal are the easiest (and earliest perfected) renewable sources to provide consistent base load. It would be odd if the first countries to achieve fully renewable power weren’t making use of those technologies.

Other countries will have to be more reliant on interconnects, diverse renewable mixes and batteries. Luckily this is now almost always cheaper and more secure than fossil fuels and the trend lines point towards that continuing to be more and more true over time.

jimmySixDOFabout 19 hours ago
>at such as scale

Not to downplay the positive steps that are being taken but we are conveniently skipping over the denominator here at least in the case of Ethiopia and DRC who both have a grid that is only serving their full population at a fraction of the level needed to make this story one about geographical lotteries and abundance instead of one about poverty preventing them from access to the traditional carbon power generating routes to server the rest of the population.

darkwaterabout 20 hours ago
Why geothermal is not renewable? Earth is not going to cool its magma soon enough
leonidasrupabout 20 hours ago
The Earth's heat content is about 1×10^19 TJ. This heat naturally flows to the surface by conduction at a rate of 44.2 TW and is replenished by radioactive decay at a rate of 30 TW. These power rates are more than double humanity's current energy consumption from primary sources, but most of this power is too diffuse (approximately 0.1 W/m^2 on average) to be recoverable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power#Resources

leonidasrupabout 20 hours ago
In comparison, averaged over the year and the day, the Earth's atmosphere receives 340 W/m^2 from the Sun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_irradiance#On_Earth's_su...

pfdietzabout 18 hours ago
Heat is extracted at geothermal wells much faster than it is being replenished by the average rate of heat flow from the deeper Earth. It's effectively "heat mining". Granted, there's a lot of heat to be mined.
Mordisquitosabout 20 hours ago
Only as a technicality. If you find a geothermal hotspot and start to extract energy from it, the hotspot will eventually cool down faster than if you hadn't (which of course depends on the size of the hotspot and how much heat you're pulling out).

However, given that there's no downsides to cooling down a hotspot other than, well, no longer being able to extract energy from it, geothermal is a bit of an honorary "renewable".

Actual renewables ultimately all come down to recent[0] solar energy, which will never deplete their source however much they are used. All the energy in wind, hydroelectric and biofuels has recently originated in the Sun.

[0] I say "recently" because fossil fuels are all also derived from the Sun, but their rate of regeneration is a bit too slow compared to the speed at which we use them.

seanmcdirmidabout 19 hours ago
A lot of hydroelectric depends on snow pack and glacier runoff that is being adversely affected by global warming. Solar and wind are the only robust hedges against a warm up that might ultimately severely curtail river flow.

We have a lot of uranium and nuclear is fairly renewable at least in the span of a few centuries. The waste issue is a problem.

krupanabout 8 hours ago
We can make oil from biomass by heating it up in a kiln, and we can do it quickly. Oil is totally renewable. It's weird to me that we are fixating on renewable when the problem is carbon gas, isn't it?
KellyCriterionabout 19 hours ago
If it goes down, what happens to all the buildings using geo/earth heat with these probe heads to collect the energy?

Does this effect occur in lets say 10-20 years or is this longterm like 50y+?

adev_about 18 hours ago
Contrary to a popular belief, most high temperature Geothermal plants have a predicted death date.

This is due to the physics reality of the ground itself: Power of a Geothermal well will decay over time to a point where the well become unusable and need to be closed.

It is due to the fact underground water is rich in minerals and raw elements. This soup will slowly but surely cement the well itself and its associated underground.

There are techniques (similar to 'fraking') to extend the lifetime of a well but only to some extent.

If the topic interests you (and you can bear artificially translated English), a French content creator did a pretty good video on the topic:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xZArgOIWc

Additionally, Geothermal plants can emit CO2 (even a lot of CO2) in some geological configuration.

All of that makes Geothermal (for electricity) a bit controversial as "Renewable".

I precise that there is absolutely nothing wrong about low temperature Geothermal energy for residential heating and we should do more.

gus_massaabout 20 hours ago
Geothermal is powered by fission Uranium and other heavy atoms deep in the Earth.

Solar is powered by fusion of Hydrogen in the Sun.

I'd use the same classification for both.

leonidasrupabout 20 hours ago
About 20% of this is residual heat from planetary accretion; the remainder is attributed to past and current radioactive decay of naturally occurring isotopes.

Most of the radiogenic heating in the Earth results from the decay of the daughter nuclei in the decay chains of uranium-238 and thorium-232, and potassium-40.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiogenic_heating

Potassium is more or less distributed in the body (especially in soft tissues) following intake of foods. A 70-kg man contains about 126 g of potassium (0.18%), most of that is located in muscles. The daily consumption of potassium is approximately 2.5 grams. Hence the concentration of potassium-40 is nearly stable in all persons at a level of about 55 Bq/kg (3850 Bq in total), which corresponds to the annual effective dose of 0.2 mSv.

https://www.nuclear-power.com/nuclear-engineering/radiation-...

pfdietzabout 18 hours ago
Almost none of it is from fission. Fission is a very rare natural decay mode of uranium and thorium. Most of their radioactive energy output is from ordinary non-fission radioactive decay.
Mordisquitosabout 20 hours ago
No, not quite. Geothermal is powered by the accumulated heat stored in rocks from fission Uranium and other heavy atoms deep in the Earth (and other phenomena).

Geothermal hotspots do not reheat by fission or otherwise at the same speed that we extract their energy (if they did we'd be in trouble if we weren't extracting it!).

As I mentioned in another comment, build a Dyson sphere of solar panels around the Sun and it will last just as long. Build an all-Earth geothermal plant and the heat will be depleted.

Y-barabout 20 hours ago
Can’t speak for large scale sites with abundant volcanic activity… But for residential geothermal the bore hole has a lifetime based on how much ground water there is and how active usage it sees.

This is because using it cools the hole slowly and after a few decades (depending on how quickly ground water can dissipate heat gradient) a new hole need to be drilled a distance away.

analog31about 18 hours ago
Can we cycle the holes? Use one while the other one is warming back up.
left-struckabout 20 hours ago
“Technically”
ahhhhnooooabout 20 hours ago
Then solar and wind aren't technically renewable either, because the sun is going to eventually consume the earth and explode.

Geothermal is renewable.

mr_mitmabout 20 hours ago
Then no power source is "technically" renewable.
nine_kabout 19 hours ago
Also, many of these countries are tropical or subtropical, with optimal conditions for solar energy year round. Nepal and Bhutan are relatively far from equator, but have many days of unobstructed sunshine.
coffeebeqnabout 18 hours ago
The vast majority of humans live in regions with plentiful sun for solar.
surgical_fireabout 19 hours ago
Well, when geothermal stops being renewable there will be no humans around to need energy generation.

You are still technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.

But if we follow that rationale, in a long enough timeline, solar and wind is also not renewable.

leonidasrupabout 14 hours ago
The article cites research publication by Stanford University professor of civil and environmental engineering Mark Z. Jacobson, very famous 100% wind, water, and sunlight (WWS) advocate.

His past research was already cited by Leonardo DiCaprio on Sept. 23 2014, during opening of the UN Climate Summit.

“The good news is that renewable energy is not only achievable but good economic policy,” DiCaprio told the more than 120 world leaders assembled. “New research shows that by 2050 clean, renewable energy could supply 100 percent of the world’s energy needs using existing technologies, and it would create millions of jobs.”

https://cee.stanford.edu/news/what-do-mark-z-jacobson-leonar...

The 100% renewable papers by Mark Z. Jacobson were subject to strong criticism. Jacobson filed a lawsuit in 2017 against the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and Christopher Clack as the principal author of the paper for defamation. In February 2024, Jacobson lost the appeal and was required to pay defendants more than $500,000 in legal fees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Z._Jacobson

Jacobson is also very strong critic of nuclear energy. In calculating CO2 emissions from using nuclear energy, he includes carbon emissions associated with the burning of cities resulting from a nuclear war aided by the expansion of nuclear energy and weapons to countries previously without them.

Jacobson assumes that some form of nuclear induced burning that will occur once every 30 years.

raptor99about 14 hours ago
Whew, very glad that a leading scientific voice like DiCaprio is speaking of this to world leaders. Solid foundations.
cheema33about 11 hours ago
> Whew, very glad that a leading scientific voice like DiCaprio is speaking of this to world leaders.

General public does not know the scientists by name. When they say something, few people listen. When a famous person says the same thing, many more people listen. That is the world we live in.

I'll take DiCaprio or any famous person promoting a good cause any day.

leonidasrupabout 1 hour ago
Mark Jacobson for example proposes “low-cost solutions to the grid reliability problem with 100% penetration of WWS [wind, water and solar power] across all energy sectors in the continental United States between 2050 and 2055”

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1510028112

This proposal uses unrealistic assumptions, for example it uses "copper plate model" to model electric grid of United States - it assumes that the future electric grid could transmit electric energy without any capacity limitations and the buildout of this grid would be cheap.

The proposal assumes gigantic buildout of hydropower to be used as backup solution for the times when solar and wind could not generate enough electricity. To be precise: increasing hydro capacity by 13x, which would result in water discharges that would regularly dwarf historic 100-year floods and wash away population centres on America's major river systems.

With unrealistic assumptions you can get any result you want.

Mark Jacobson has done PhD research on the role of black carbon and other aerosol chemical components on global and regional climates, under atmospheric scientist Richard P. Turco - who developed and popularized the science of nuclear winter. Because of this I think Jacobson is trying to get world of nuclear weapons, nuclear technology and nuclear power by any means necessary, even if this means publishing unrealistic proposals.

Jacobson's push toward 100% WWS is not a realistic solution to decarbonize world, it's just way to give politicians and celebrities arguments against nuclear power. "We don't need nuclear technology anywhere in the world, because in future we will have 100% wind, water and solar power energy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Solutions_Project

Jacobson should say load and clearly the truth: I don't have realistic proposal to decarbonize world, I just want the world to get rid of nuclear bombs.

ilitiritabout 19 hours ago
Probably at least slightly misleading, just reading the names of some of the countries in the list (I am from South Africa).

Just because a country generates 100% of its energy from renewables, it doesn't mean that its enough to power the entire or even majority of the country. Case in point: DRC. I believe only half of the population has access to electricity. It's been a while since I've looked into continental stats, but a quick Google search suggests the situation hasn't changed that much in the last few years.

jaspanglia31 minutes ago
tbh times like this, thinking about only renewables is totally stupidity. Look at what germany did to it's economy stupid fellas.
aqua_coderabout 20 hours ago
I live in one of those countries, and while renewable electricity helped to cushion the concern for house electricity, most of the logistics (that being the supply chain for basic commodities) are transported by oil (specifically diesel). Which further increases inflation for import dependent countries. Meaning even for those states (except those that don't import oil to move cars in the country) it will regardless cause an economic crisis.

One state is considered to be fully 'renewable' if the means of transport (excluding Airplanes since I can't find a suitable alternative ) for land is done via electric cars

cenamusabout 19 hours ago
Or just trains
lateforworkabout 18 hours ago
Meanwhile the US is spending billions to cancel renewable energy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/climate/offshore-wind-gas...

CMayabout 8 hours ago
Climate change policy was a valiant effort to de-influence authoritarian petrostates and prevent Russia from achieving its multi-century goal of expanding its access to actual warm water ports. The major conflicts between Russia and Japan were essentially over that. It's why Japan even attacked Korea, because Russia was trying to gain influence there and it was an essential launching off point if Russia was ever going to attack Japan.

If climate has already changed so much that Russia's ports are no longer going to freeze, then green energy initiatives may just put us at a disadvantage since we don't manufacture most of the products. Solar panels, wind turbines, we don't control a lot of that supply chain which isn't healthy.

There are other advantages to renewable energy, but at the moment the USD benefits from oil reliance and transitioning away from oil while maintaining USD influence is an important goal.

At the same time, oil infrastructure does tend to have a lot of weak points, where renewable energy can be easier to spread out. Eventually I think it will be relegated to military and byproducts more, but for now there is an abundant supply.

pfdietzabout 18 hours ago
King Canute Trump trying to order back the tide.
LastTrainabout 16 hours ago
Blows me away that energy policy is so political, and that somehow self-styled libertarians who don’t say a peep about oil subsidies are deeply offended by renewable ones. It you consider yourself libertarian can you at least be forward-thinking enough to see that shifting to renewables is also a step towards decentralization?
krupanabout 8 hours ago
Hi! How is it decentralization if it's subsidized by the government?

And which libertarians are in favor of oil subsidies? I'd like to have a talk with them

midtakeabout 1 hour ago
Where's nuclear? How is solar more renewable than nuclear?
gatvolabout 8 hours ago
Lovely. What does their power cost? How much power hungry industry do these countries have?
birktjabout 18 hours ago
This is a bit of a weird list. This looks at the percentage of electricity generation that is renewable. But some of these countries are net importers. I think the final row in the table from the report [1] is more interesting. It compares the generation of renewable energy as a percentage of demand. There are quite a few countries that don't quite have 100% renewable generation, but generate way more than 100% of their demand as renewable energy.

[1]: https://web.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/WWSBook/Countri...

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latentframeabout 5 hours ago
Cases are very interesting but most rely a lot on hydro and specific geography : the real shift is not exactly 100% renewables in small systems but maybe more whether large industrial economies can replicate this with maintaining grid stability and lower costs
mentalgearabout 18 hours ago
Article from 2024: still super impressive in 2024 yet I'd like more recent numbers to see the progress.
dalyonsabout 17 hours ago
Worse, the summary article makes claims using 2022 data which is so out of date to be useless
pelasacoabout 1 hour ago
I am not sure, but i guess the Paraguayan Energy is mostly generated in Brazil, which as i can see here https://www.iea.org/countries/brazil generates 88.826% of its own energy from Renewables.
flakinessabout 15 hours ago
Japan used to have many dams for the electricity but then scaled them down (or not scale it up) due to environmental concern. I'm not sure it was a right call given the limited availability of options there. They are also strong anti-nuclear sentiment which I have some sympathy. However you need something you have to make a call.

This map says hydro share is like 8%. https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/JP/live/fifteen_min...

librasteveabout 13 hours ago
I see that Norway is big on renewables - great that all that Oil & Gas revenue can be used to build hydro & wind to salve their conscience.
MandieDabout 12 hours ago
It's not (mostly) to salve their consciences; it's fundamental to their avoidance of the Resource Curse/"Dutch Disease". Norway, unlike just about everywhere else "blessed" (and I use those scare-quotes intentionally) with oil and gas, anticipated the value of not getting high on one's own supply: they have some of the most heavily taxed vehicle fuel in Europe, as well as strict limits on how much oil/gas tax revenue can be spent each year with the rest going into an enormous investment fund.
triceratopsabout 8 hours ago
Better than having oil and gas revenue and not using it to build hydro and wind. Like some other countries we can all name.
chinabotabout 13 hours ago
Interesting looking at the data, that Norway generates 4x the electricity of NZ and they are roughly the same size and population I assume it exports most.
goldenarmabout 20 hours ago
This article omits important context : these 7 countries have massive hydro power (+geothermal for Iceland) for very little demand.

The only countries with <100 g CO2/kWh and >10TWh/y are using nuclear. Large scale batteries are exciting for the future but need more development. The 2 biggest battery investments in the world are being made in Australia and California, yet still produce 4x the g CO2/kWh of France.

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/5y/yearly

sphabout 18 hours ago
Seeing so many sub-Saharan countries generating >= 50% of their electricity from renewables makes me smile: https://static.the-independent.com/2024/04/16/11/renewable%2...
bluGillabout 16 hours ago
It makes me sad - most of them are fairly poor and so don't use much energy. I want those people to have the wealth to consume as much energy as me. (My city is also 100% renewable but since I live in the us we don't show near as well on the charts overall.
celsoazevedoabout 13 hours ago
Is the glass half empty or half full?

If they're able to produce clean energy to cover a large part of their needs, then that's a reason to be happy. We can also hope their quality of life improves without having to waste as much energy as people in the US do. The amount of electricity, gas, etc, used just to heat or cool down houses... if they can be smarter and do it while using less energy, then good for them.

realoabout 20 hours ago
Perovskite Tandem are the best , according to the graph.

Why is it that those are reserved for ultra-big utility companies and I cannot buy those for my home or even my balcony?

philipkglassabout 20 hours ago
At present, those tandem cells are still experimental. Nobody is manufacturing them on gigawatt scale like for other solar cell technologies.
realoabout 20 hours ago
Well... if you go to the web site , they seem to welcome very large orders. Just not mine or yours.

Might be experimental and unavailable, but just for small orders? Come on ...

wpmabout 19 hours ago
Time for a group buy
nicoburnsabout 14 hours ago
They're much more expensive than traditional silicon cells, they often use toxic materials (lead, cadmium, etc), and IIRC their lifespans aren't as long. Unless you have significant space constraints it's usually better just to get twice as many traditional panels.
hbarkaabout 14 hours ago
mentalgearabout 18 hours ago
What a great beacon of hope to consider that we are closer than we thought in the clean energy rollout ! I read somewhere, not sure though how it is assessed/how valid it is, that last year 50% world-wide came already from clean power, with countries like the UK around 50% in the middle and others like Spain far ahead.
esskayabout 17 hours ago
Yeah UK's currently going through the biggest rollout of renewable energy ever, the pace is insanely high. Theres new rules to allow plug in solar coming into effect too with kits already available for renters and such.
jonatronabout 16 hours ago
They announced they're thinking about amending regulations to allow plug in solar at some point. Hopefully something eventually actually gets done.
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PunchyHamsterabout 12 hours ago
I don't think countries with rolling blackout should count.

Unless the point here is "if we accept rolling blackouts we too can go full solar"

tensorabout 12 hours ago
Funny, the last time there was a blackout, I still had power due to my solar, while all the gas people sat in the dark and pouted.
nofriendabout 5 hours ago
That's exactly what's going on in africa, people are installing solar panels in order to avoid having their power be out half the time.
JumpCrisscrossabout 13 hours ago
About 80% of global primary energy consumption comes from fossil fuels [1]. With renewables growing at 10x the rate of demand growth, we’re moving in the right direction. But it’s dishonest to frame it as a “tipping point.”

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_supply_and_consum...

pifabout 3 hours ago
Wake me up when a heavily industrialized country will be in the list, thanks!
saidnooneeverabout 21 hours ago
i love that in a lot of countries people think these other countries are in the sticks and that they are modern... (ofc depending who u talk to but im sure we all know such a person...) :) a lot of perceptions based on old world views. Love to see these countries do so well on it. There might be many problems to solve still but it provides a degree of self reliance for energy that is really important today for a country i'd think
giantg2about 20 hours ago
It's contrary to what most people think, but the later a country modernized, the better the infrastructure (generally). You basically get to skip the innovation stages where you have a hodgepodge of systems that eventually coalesce into one and all the upgrading required to bring it up to the newest standard. If you have a lower population and smaller geography, it is often easier to upgrade as well.
mpweiherabout 19 hours ago
Albania: 90% Hydropower, $12150 GDP/person

Bhutan: 99% Hydropower, $ 4700 GDP/person

Nepal: 23% Imported $ 1381 GDP/person

            rest Hydropower  (2/3 of energy: firewood etc.)
Paraguay: 100% Hydropower, $ 7990 GDP/person

Iceland: 99% Hydry/Geo, $90000 GDP/person

Ethiopia: 88% Hydropower, $ 1350 GDP/person

DR Kongo: 98% Hydropower, $ 760 GDP/person , 13% of country has electricity

Not sure how this is applicable (and in many cases: desirable) for countries that do not have significant hydropower potential or maybe want a GDP greater than $760 per person per year.

readthenotes1about 20 hours ago
Those "countries in the sticks", one report says that the DRC only has at most 20% of the households on electricity. This report says only 10% https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/democratic-r...

On the other hand, balcony solar power will be a game changer for the world, provided your neighbors won't steal the panels like they do the catalytic converters in my neighborhood.

amarantabout 17 hours ago
Honestly surprised Iceland doesn't rely more on geothermal, the entire country is a volcano! I had expected a 70-30 split in the other direction
svthabout 13 hours ago
Geothermal is fantastic for heating. Speaking as an Icelander, we have so much hot water in Reykjavík that we even use the residue to keep our pavements clear of ice in winter. Pipes under the sidewalks carry exiting geothermally heated water from nearby houses. It's great technology and has served us well.
yownieabout 14 hours ago
most people from abroad do, but most of that geothermal goes to home heating and not power generation too.
rs_rs_rs_rs_rsabout 18 hours ago
All these industrial powerhouses like Iceland and Albania!
ardit33about 10 hours ago
Lol... Hey now, I am Albanian, and we have delicious food. :) And export a bunch of random things (like Oregano, Olive Oil, Lavender, Shoes, etc..), and some steel and oil. But, mostly 'light industry' stuff.
efitzabout 18 hours ago
Mixing in geothermal and hydro really distorts the story. Although technically correct, the common usage connotation of “renewable energy “ today is “wind and solar”.
Lichtsoabout 18 hours ago
> the common usage connotation of “renewable energy “ today is “wind and solar”

Hydro, wind and solar. Hydro is often even more important because it runs more steadily than the other two.

Geothermal and nuclear are neither fossil nor renewable, they are their own category.

PowerElectronixabout 19 hours ago
Sadly these are edge cases due to either a lot of hydro, which is terrible for the environment in most cases or having neighbors that buy the renewable and help stabilize the grid with conventional energy.

The best way to go green is still going green yourself. Get some panels, batery, inverter and go where no government wants you to go, off-grid. (And a gas generator, too, just in case...)