Keep Pushing: We Get 10 More Days to Reform Section 702

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sneak•about 3 hours ago

Reminder: this is their #1 most used tool for collecting data. Snowden told us of the existence of this program under the codename PRISM.

This allows them to download the entire contents of your gmail instantly, directly from Google, without a warrant. Or your iCloud Photos and Backups (complete iMessage history) directly from Apple. No warrant required.

IshKebab•about 2 hours ago

> This allows them to download the entire contents of your gmail

Does it though? I believe they did that with PRISM by eavesdropping on the unencrypted data transfers within Google's network itself - without their knowledge. Since that revelation came to light I presume Google have upgraded their security.

gib444•about 2 hours ago

Wait, doesn't the constitution protect people from this?

Noaidi•39 minutes ago

No.

First, FISA was created in 1978 to protect Americans from the CIA by forcing them to show probably casuse. Section 702 of FISA is about intercepting any foreigners communications for which they need no warrent.

But the CIA incidentally collects data of U.S citizens during these warrentless wire taps, and that would be the 4th amendment challenge, but so far that is going nowhere.

LadyCailin•about 2 hours ago

The constitution lost its power long ago, and is now a mere fig leaf of legitimacy. Plenty of things ought to be unconstitutional based on a plain reading of the constitution. Civil forfeiture, unlimited gun rights, qualified immunity, FISA courts, various “emergency” powers, deportation of US citizens, etc, etc. The trouble is that a huge portion of Americans don’t really care about any of this, so long as these violations are used to stick it to liberals, all is forgiven.

Keep Pushing: We Get 10 More Days to Reform Section 702

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