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jqpabc123•about 5 hours ago
The big winner from the Iran war thus far --- China.

Whether Israel is a real winner is yet to be determined.

There is no significant, strategic benefit to the USA despite spending at least $50 billion thus far --- not counting the cost of inflated fuel prices.

Symbiote•about 3 hours ago
> Last week the German automotive trade body said restructuring in the industry and new investment was paying off, as every second electric car sold in Europe was now made in Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/20/electric...

whatevaa•about 2 hours ago
China has been winning since Trump took office second time. They are winning by doing... nothing :)
slaw•23 minutes ago
China is advancing for the last 25 years, Trump or no Trump.
kylehotchkiss•about 3 hours ago
Well, we stopped hearing about the files. That's kinda a benefit to some people?
a_shovel•about 2 hours ago
The next administration needs to mandate the big American auto companies produce more EVs in more models in order to save them from the irrelevance they seemingly desire and arguably deserve.
jesterson•about 3 hours ago
I wonder what way of thinking these people exercise. They think electricity prices are somehow shielded from price going up?
whatevaa•about 2 hours ago
No. But there is more control than with petrol. An if you have more charger, could balance charginf during off-peak cheaper hours.

Can't do anything about petrol. Pay or gtfo.

barbazoo•about 2 hours ago
ICE cars use energy from close to 100% oil. As long as your electrical grid is more diverse than that, you're already better off.
peterlada•about 2 hours ago
What? Where? In face that statement is not true pretty much everywhere. 50% of electricity in Hungary is nuclear. 80% in France. 50% coal in Poland, 30 % solar in Spain.
supercheetah•about 1 hour ago
You should reread their post. You're proving their point.
triceratops•about 3 hours ago
In places where electricity generation is primarily nuclear, solar, hydro, wind, or geothermal? Yeah pretty much.

In most countries electric utilities have either regulated rates or are public-owned. They don't increase prices willy-nilly.

ZeroGravitas•about 2 hours ago
If you have an internet connected charger, which is standard in some countries, you can be decoupled from gas prices long before the gas gets phased out of the grid by charging when the grid is cheap and clean, even if gas is still being used for peakers. A simple timer will also often do the job, but you get even lower prices if you help the grid out by letting it dictate the exact time to start charging.
measurablefunc•about 5 hours ago
These are just flashes in a pan. The material math for EVs is not viable.
jqpabc123•about 5 hours ago
I'll bet your math conveniently ignores the fact that the supply of petroleum is inherently limited and subject to disruption for political and other "non-material" reasons..
measurablefunc•about 3 hours ago
It's not a political statement, just basic physics & chemistry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEkIh2PcSYE
diablozzq•about 3 hours ago
Your own YouTube link refutes your conclusion. in the first few sentences he states “The problem is not with EVs it’s with mandates”

EVs are fine,

yes they are still limited in some cases.

peterlada•about 2 hours ago
Geez, Hillsdale College. Worldwide authority on all economics from the theological perspective. Congrats on picking information sources.
measurablefunc•about 1 hour ago
Do the math & then post your own video to explain why he's mistaken.
zug_zug•about 3 hours ago
I don't think "material math" applies to things that are huge luxury/status symbol purchases. Otherwise we'd all be driving 2005 corollas.

And as status-symbol or identity statement, being anti-oil (or anti beholden on America, Russia, Iran, etc) seems like a pretty good one.

measurablefunc•about 3 hours ago
I am not making any political statements, it's all basic physics & material science: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEkIh2PcSYE
zug_zug•about 2 hours ago
I've watched plenty of youtube videos, I'm not gonna watch a 10 minute video from somebody I've never heard of and treat is as a good source. It's bad form to post that here multiple times instead of just citing whatever actual published sources.

Especially when EV vehicles are already working and taking over the market.