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notabotiswear•about 1 hour ago
>"This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?"

Karma’s a b*tch, innit?

thedevilslawyer•about 1 hour ago
A better reply would have been:

> "This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?"

>> Opt-out is as simple as sending in your resignation to your manager.

dist-epoch•44 minutes ago
Typical Meta employee:

> I can't hear you over the sound of the millions I'm making at Meta.

raxxorraxor•about 3 hours ago
If you work for meta you shouldn't have a problem with invading the privacy of others.

Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you have ethical or moral problems with that.

keybored•about 2 hours ago
I don’t care about Schadenfreude. It’s good that they are making a stink.

I would bang my head against the wall if they either didn’t make a stink or publicly said that, of course the Company is going to monitor me, it’s their hardware[1] and who am I to be anything but a vessel for my employer on Company time etc.

[1] As seen in the comments on the large thread about this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47851948

thedevilslawyer•about 1 hour ago
Schadenfreude is exactly what's needed here. The rallying words can be for another set of people/org.
zelphirkalt•about 1 hour ago
You are (hopefully) a human being firstly, and only in some later capacity "a vessel for my employer on Company time". It would do the world some good, if more people remembered, that they are working with people and their decisions affect people.
keybored•about 1 hour ago
Speaking about Meta employees. There was this anecdote from a month ago:

> very few facebook employees use their products outside of testing, which is a big contributor to that fear - they just can't believe that there are billions of people who would continue to use apps to post what they had for lunch!

> And as a result of that lack of faith, most of them believe that Meta is a bubble and can burst at any point. Consequently, everyone works for the next performance review cycle, and most are just in rush to capture as much money as they could before that bubble bursts.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47409649

shevy-java•about 2 hours ago
It is in a way some kind of modern day slavery. Of course they can always decide to quit, but what if the next company uses the same sniffing strategy? On youtube you can see video clips of indians wearing various glasses to monitor their own manual work procedures. AI has truly become our new overlord, controlled by a few huge companies.
nicman23•about 1 hour ago
lol what. you are getting paying it is not slavery
zelphirkalt•about 1 hour ago
Some people are forced to work in places, which are dehumanizing through work conditions, whether you get paid for it or not doesn't necessarily tell you much. Of course this is not the case for Mete employees, who should have an easy time finding other employment. But these trends are not limited to Meta. They might find application in some shithole of a badly paid job somewhere, where people have only the choice between living poorly in some slums, or serving their local tech overlord.
vortegne•about 2 hours ago
Small-scale imperial boomerang. You thought that you're building a privacy-destroying machine and this machine will never destroy _your_ privacy?

At some point in the future, a lot of the SV techbros will be hopefully viewed as ghouls with no morals or ethics. This is not a subsection of humanity that should be dictating anything and yet they always do. If you complain about this and don't quit your job at Meta, you're failing an extremely basic check.

zelphirkalt•about 1 hour ago
> At some point in the future, a lot of the SV techbros will be hopefully viewed as ghouls with no morals or ethics. This is not a subsection of humanity that should be dictating anything and yet they always do. If you complain about this and don't quit your job at Meta, you're failing an extremely basic check.

I hope you are right, though it will still take a long time, if it ever happens. The base premises of most people is still something along the lines of: Has money -> must be successful -> is smarter than most -> is right and cannot be wrong.

This kind of shortcircuited thinking is superbly annoying and harms us and the planet and every living being on it. I still remember clearly, when I explained to a Facebook fanperson, that FB is a criminal organization, just after they had to pay the highest fines ever for violating people's privacy. Despite the plain facts in front of them they chose not to believe me, because who am I, right? Just an IT person, who cannot possibly know shit, since I am not as rich and famous as Zucky the android.

gamerslexus•about 1 hour ago
> This is not a subsection of humanity that should be dictating anything and yet they always do.

Interesting phrasing. So which subsection of humanity you think should be dictating something?

Is there a reason you didn't go with

> No subsection of humanity should be dictating anything and yet these techbros always do.

rootlocus•about 1 hour ago
With all due respect to the guidelines that requires assuming good faith, this sounds like the beginning of a nirvana fallacy.

You don't have to provide a perfect solution to point out something is wrong. People who don't care about the people they lead don't make good leaders. I'd rather have leaders who hurt others by accident than on purpose.

ceejayoz•about 1 hour ago
> So which subsection of humanity you think should be dictating something?

"Here's your shit sandwich."

"I don't want a shit sandwich!"

I don't have to know what I do want to eat to decline the shit sandwich.

gamerslexus•18 minutes ago
The shit sandwich is the sneaky idea that any "subsection of humanity" should dictate anything. Weirdly it's always a subsection that the speaker happens to be in or be friends with. I don't know about you but I know I don't want that shit sandwich.
compass_copium•about 1 hour ago
The proletariat, of course.
andrewstuart•about 2 hours ago
The company is run by lizards in hoodies.
loloquwowndueo•43 minutes ago
Now now don’t be mean to lizards