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krupanabout 2 hours ago
The way this has apparently been handled saddens me. I worked for Cruise, a Waymo competitor. A Cruise vehicle famously had a very unfortunate accident and Cruise government relations employees famously tried to cover up the worst details when reporting it to the CA DMV. Of course the cover-up was discovered and guess what? Cruise lost their license and not long after lost all their funding and shut down.

Self driving cars are a new technology that makes a lot of people nervous. For it to succeed those nerves need to be acknowledged and settled. This is life and death for the business and technology!

Also, Waymo's customers (and really all of us sharing the road with them) are very much providing Waymo a huge service as early beta testers. They need to be treated extremely well right now. It is not the time for Waymo to be trying to keep things quiet, dismissing concerns, and making half assed restitution for problems. Again, This is life and death for the technology and your company, Waymo! Every bit as important as the engineering work you are doing. Please don't screw this up

redanddeadabout 1 hour ago
Cruise was legendary, awesome bunch of people. I remember finding out how you guys had an angel syndicate and speaking to a few guys, hope you all are onto bigger and better things
tencentshillabout 1 hour ago
>keep things quiet, dismissing concerns, and making half assed restitution for problems

That is exactly the Tesla strategy, and it seems to work well for them. Though Waymo doesn't have a daily PR disaster to distract like Musk.

BoorishBearsabout 2 hours ago
Waymo has been "scaling up".

In the earliest days the lost and found was 7 days a week with highly permissive hours for a manned desk at the depot.

Then one day it became weekdays-only, but with a still large window.

Then one day the window for pick up got broken up into a few smaller windows throughout the day.

Now with the larger Bay Area expansion they did switch to automated lockers, but if you're unfortunate enough in SF specifically, your belongings now end up in a locker an hour away from from the city...

toss1about 2 hours ago
It is also literally insanely hostile for Waymo to respond like this.

The parent company, Alphabet, is valued over four trillion dollars.

The proper response would have been: "oh, terribly sorry for the inconvenience, we'll immediately turn it around, wait there".

If that was somehow actually possible, the next response should have been: "Oh, sorry that is impossible because of [actual reason X], we are terribly sorry for the inconvenience, where are you going to be staying, we'll immediately pack and ship it all to you FedEx".

Instead, they do this petty crap.

I'm no lawyer, but as soon as someone takes off with my stuff, that sounds like theft. Sure, I willingly put it in the trunk, but it was on a contract that they would deliver me and my luggage to the destination. Refusing to allow me to retrieve it, then requiring me to come get it is just outrageous.

At the very least, instead of offering the rider two rides to come fetch his stuff that they drove off with, would be to deliver it to his home at a time convenient to him.

This tells me the company is run by a bunch of greedy losers. Not anyone with whom I might want to associate or do business.

Really disappointing

tialaramexabout 1 hour ago
> I'm no lawyer, but as soon as someone takes off with my stuff, that sounds like theft.

I expect it's not theft. In England the intent requirement is famously "permanently to deprive" and so any situation where you're getting it back isn't theft. Doubtless the US has slightly different rules but I don't think that'll be theft.

CaliforniaKarlabout 4 hours ago
I am surprised the trunk didn't open, and I’m very surprised that Waymo support could not turn the vehicle around. I’ve had a Waymo alert me when I left something in the back seat; I’m surprised it did not do the same for the trunk.

I think the person should report this to either the California DMV or CPUC, as well as the local airport authority.

For autonomous vehicles, I think people need to ‘normalize’ leaving one of the doors open until all people & cargo are out of the vehicle. The vehicle may complain, but it’s not going to drive off.

gbossabout 3 hours ago
For what it’s worth, I always leave the door I exited out of open while removing luggage from the trunk. It’s just safer. Edit: from any uber or lyft
disillusionedabout 4 hours ago
Any time I've loaded something into the trunk of a Waymo, it pre-emptively pops the trunk when I'm getting out _for_ me and reminds me to get my things from the trunk, so this is... surprising as a failure mode. Wondering if there was some issue with the latch/opening system, because it's definitely programmed to work the right way. (Or he tossed his stuff into the trunk from the main cabin, but... it's a pretty low hatch ceiling there.)
ranger_dangerabout 4 hours ago
What happens if one were to keep leaving doors open? I wonder if they would ban you or something.
cosmoticabout 4 hours ago
Wonder no more. They order doordashers to close the door.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/12/waymo-is-paying-doordash-gig...

ranger_dangerabout 4 hours ago
Interesting... I wonder if getting paid for closing the door still requires you to be active enough on the platform... otherwise I imagine you'd have people signing up for DoorDash just to stand in front of popular places and "hold the door open" for people... $10-20 a pop sounds like a good hustle.
userbinatorabout 3 hours ago
They would probably start to consider installing automatic doors if enough people do it.
cheriotabout 4 hours ago
tbh, I do that with Uber/Lyft, too
chaboud28 minutes ago
Fearful that a simple software issue could do exactly this, I have adopted an approach to using Waymo with luggage:

1. Get out. 2. Leave the door open. 3. Open the trunk. 4. Get stuff. 5. Close the trunk. 6. Close the door that I left open.

I've had enough stupid stuff happen in a Waymo. I'm not going to leave it to faith that it won't drive off with my laptop, etc.

tasoeur16 minutes ago
That’s funny, I’ve actually used the same algorithm but with taxis in general, for having the same exact issue as the person in this article… but with real driver. (All of this assuming it’s safe to keep a door open!)
plaidfujiabout 2 hours ago
They offered him two free hour-long rides to their facility and back just to pick up the suitcase? Waymo trouble than it’s worth
wrsabout 2 hours ago
Why couldn’t they just stick the suitcase in a Waymo and send it to him?
danparsonson28 minutes ago
Sounds like there's no guarantee it would let him retrieve it
chaboud24 minutes ago
That's like a free bus ride to Cleveland... if I wanted to go, I'd happily get myself there.
cheriotabout 4 hours ago
Thank you, Sunnyvale man, for hitting this edge case before I do.
est31about 4 hours ago
This is a general fear for me whenever I take a taxi or something like it: i always remind the driver of my luggage in the back when we arrive and ask them whether they can help me get it.
bastawhizabout 3 hours ago
This past week I took a Waymo and had difficulty exiting. It seemed like someone may have enabled the child locks. I'm overall very positive on the service, but this kind of issue needs to be addressed by the company.
bryan_w27 minutes ago
Not keeping the door open while grabbing luggage is NPC behavior no matter if it's waymo, Uber or a taxi.

The fact he mad this mistake, then went to the news media to broadcast his bad decision making is embarrassing.

I bet he finds himself the victim of bad situations all the time and doesn't know why

geor9eabout 3 hours ago
You can prevent this by leaving the passenger door open until you've gotten the trunk open.
smilekzsabout 1 hour ago
+1.

Brought up in a low-trust env and this became habitual.

justincliftabout 4 hours ago
(The sfist.com site seems to be extremely slow atm)

https://web.archive.org/web/20260502234729/https://sfist.com...

userbinatorabout 3 hours ago
take two complementary rides to pick it up

That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

disillusionedabout 3 hours ago
It'd be nicer if they sent someone with his luggage TO HIM rather than making HIM take his time to go on a tour to the depot, though.
jcgrilloabout 3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. It used to be when the airline lost your bag they would get it to you no matter what. They own their mistake, and make it right to the best of their ability. In the most egregious case I can recall, delivering skis and poles 4hr+ from the airport into a remote mountain village ca. 2003. This is how you build trust in your brand--when you fuck up, you take ownership and make it right. You don't just shrug it off and throw a gift card on the floor like "take it or leave it idgaf".
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