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hmokiguessabout 3 hours ago
Give it away, give it away, give it away now

Give it away, give it away, give it away now

Give it away, give it away, give it away now

I can't tell, if I'm a king pin or a pauper

stephenhueyabout 2 hours ago
Under the Bridge is still my favorite...

Sometimes I feel like I don't have a partner Sometimes I feel like my only friend Is the city I live in, The City of Angels Lonely as I am, together we cry

bix619 minutes ago
Unimpressed by material excess
mxfhabout 3 hours ago
This is one of the reasons we can't have proper soundtracks in video games or non AAA TV shows anymore or re-releases of old TV-shows anymore.

I just feel bad for all the pension fonds backing this Bain Capital PE joint venture who will have an off chance of making back their investments with the current state of IP and AI trends.

sparklingabout 1 hour ago
In a world full of endless AI slop, wouldn't original recordings become more valuable over time?
stavros3 minutes ago
Yes, like in a world full of electronic music, original recordings of guitar players became more valuable over time.
aidosabout 3 hours ago
That does seem like less than I would expect!

It always makes me a bit sad that everyone knows RHCP but less so their early stuff. Blood sugar sex magik is a funk masterpiece. Didn’t help that for years Spotify used the singles versions of the tracks so the levels were all over the place and it was basically unstreamable.

ThomWabout 3 hours ago
Freaky Styley is their funk masterpiece. haha
aidosabout 2 hours ago
Fair. It did have George Clinton at the helm.

I loved all the early stuff. Freaky Styley, Mothers Milk, The Uplift Mofo party plan. With Rick Rubin at the controls I just think Blood Sugar Sex Magik took their sound to another level.

dyauspitr21 minutes ago
$300M is a lot though.
mlhpdxabout 1 hour ago
Out in L.A.
neomabout 3 hours ago
Re: the "low price", they'd already sold their publishing right in 2021 for $140MM, so this is the master rights they sold for 300. By comparison, Springsteen sold both his together to Sony in 2021 for $500MM.
embedding-shapeabout 3 hours ago
I don't think they're just selling the mastering rights here, it's the rights for the recordings that are being played that is being sold here.

> The new deal with Warner Music Group hands over the rights to the official recordings, meaning the label will profit from any further streaming, radio play or album sales.

Edit: I'm stupid, you mean "master rights", which is correct, they're getting the rights of the masters. Your typo made me think of the act of mastering music, not the "masters".

neomabout 2 hours ago
Fixed - thanks!
afavourabout 3 hours ago
I'm surprised the number is this low! Queen sold their catalogue for $1.27bn and while RHCP are clearly not on their scale I thought they were pretty high up there, especially given how long they've been active.
Waterluvianabout 3 hours ago
All subjective and all that. But I feel like 300M vs. 1.27B is exactly where I would have personally pinned their ratio difference.

To roughly frame it: if we made another golden record, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had 4 Queen songs and 1 RHCP song.

sho_hnabout 3 hours ago
Same, or worse. Having lived in Europe and Korea I can tell you numerous Queen songs have instant recognizability the world over, but I would say RHCP are a household name mostly in the US, except maybe some older people recognizing Californication as a distinctly 90s happening.
amarantabout 2 hours ago
In Europe it's cheating. Queen is from Europe.

But yeah, Californication is pretty much my only rhcp reference.

Also: what do you mean "older people"? I ain't that old yet! Shakes fist at cloud

essephabout 2 hours ago
Californication was 2000. I think a single came out in the summer of 1999 off that album though.
vagesabout 3 hours ago
In terms of artistic quality, perhaps. In terms of expected future royalties, I think Queen would be an order of magnitude more valuable than most artists.
vascoabout 3 hours ago
So its all good since it sold for an order of magnitude more
crispyambulanceabout 2 hours ago
Beyond a certain amount, the actual number becomes meaningless especially for people who already have dynastic wealth not even counting this. It's just what they happened to negotiate.

It's quite a retirement package.

manquerabout 3 hours ago
It was also a different market in 2024. Much more fluid private credit industry, deal volume was much higher[1] and under very different interest rate regime[2], also generated music was just getting somewhat decent and the risk probably wasn't being factored in to long term value yet.

[1] The Queen deal came at end of series of high profile catalog acquisitions all 500M+ buys - Springsteen, Jackson(half), Bob Dylan.

[2] Interest rate while high was trending down and widely expected to even reach to pre-pandemic levels in few quarters.

red-iron-pineabout 2 hours ago
yeah also surprised.

and as mentioned elsewhere, RHCP is still young enough to crank out a few more albums and tour. Bruce Springsteen kept cranking until his 80s and sold the catalog for $500M

I assume the band is basically tapped out and ready to rest on laurels

indigodaddyabout 1 hour ago
Bruce is 76
piskovabout 3 hours ago
Sting reportedly got $300 mil back in 2022
0cf8612b2e1e31 minutes ago
Is there any write up about how these economics work? How much does the catalog generate in a year?

The band must be past peak popularity, with listens continuing to decline year after year.

bix616 minutes ago
Someone writes an NPV and everyone says great! I looked into the math a bit when Bieber sold his. Didn’t seem worth it but what do I know.
reaperducer24 minutes ago
listens continuing to decline year after year.

Streaming music is only the tip of the iceberg.

Most TV commercials are using 30-year-old songs. Add to that streaming series (think Stranger Things), movies, public spaces, internet radio, actual radio, and hundreds of other licensing opportunities await.

vondurabout 1 hour ago
Wow, I just a saw a YouTube video of Flea's house for sale in the LA suburb of La Crescenta for sale. Super nice house. Strangely I also saw Steve Vai's house for sale in LA at the same time. Also super nice house.
bigbuppoabout 1 hour ago
I'd rather it be WMG than IP Venture Partners Acquisition Round 7 LLC like some bands have done.
liveoneggsabout 3 hours ago
Every credit card rewards program will "give it away now" from now on
baggachipzabout 3 hours ago
$300 million, all songs about California
pavel_lishinabout 2 hours ago
Please no more California songs.
cpursley34 minutes ago
This is unfair, they go All Around The World - from Alabama to Kazakhstan.
shwajabout 3 hours ago
Relatively small amount compared to the billions we see thrown around for AI startups a couple of years old.
xnxabout 3 hours ago
True, but don't be fooled by imaginary "valuations" in the billions. RHCP is definitely getting paid real money.
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rgloverabout 1 hour ago
I guess the Uplift Mofo Party Plan worked...
perarnengabout 3 hours ago
Hard to tell what the value of music will be in 5 years
nine_kabout 3 hours ago
The value of guaranteed real stuff, with known provenance, still remains in the world of mass production; a "real Louis Vuitton bag" is still worth more than a very good copy, or a very good bag from an unknown designer.

But most of the market, is, of course, lower end. Probably "good enough" machine-produced music is going to dominate casual playlists, but some bands still will have large followings, and live show still be valuable.

bagelsabout 2 hours ago
"Luis" Vuitton is the knockoff brand, but point taken.
nine_kabout 1 hour ago
Sorry, it was a typo; fixed. (French and Spanish orthographies differ here, but both names were accepted by the spellchecker.)
sevenzeroabout 2 hours ago
Digital music? Probably non-existent. Live music played by actual musicians? Just as much.
fraywingabout 3 hours ago
Music and streaming is severely under attack from an effort/commercial viability perspective given tools like Suno[1]

Not exactly saying this is the reason for their sell, but I'd imagine a lot of professional musicians are feeling the desire to exit the industry.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2026/05/02/nx-s1-5804489/music-listeners...

Slow_Hand17 minutes ago
As a record maker, I'd say record making is under attack from Suno about as much as novelists are under attack from Chat GPT. Both still require a crafts person to steer the tools, if they're to be used at all.

Yes there will be slop, but neither Suno nor GPT are close to making coherent work with creators with taste and good judgement.

mtoner23about 2 hours ago
Can't wait for the RHCP biopic in 2028!
DwnVoteHoneyPotabout 2 hours ago
It'll be a Broadway play first to test it out.
thih9about 2 hours ago
trgnabout 1 hour ago
Feels cheap
gedyabout 3 hours ago
Good for them. I have a memory of first seeing them in their video True Men Don't Kill Coyotes† around 1984? and thinking "wow these guys are terrible". In hindsight, they were very 90s and pretty ahead of their time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC3j1pNXhSU

Forgeties79about 3 hours ago
That honestly sounds like a good deal for the buyer at first blush but can’t say I’m an expert here
mxfhabout 3 hours ago
With the trend of things, this seems like good timing for the RHCP estates with a not so unlikely collapse of licensing revenue happening in the near future.
NoboruWatayaabout 3 hours ago
I wonder if you tend to see more artists selling their back catalogues at times like this when some technological disruption is casting doubt on their ability to continue to generate income from them. David Bowie was famously one of the first artists to securitise music royalties, in 1997, basically at the dawn of the digital copying era.
freejazzabout 2 hours ago
Why would licensing revenue for hit songs collapse?
windowsrookieabout 1 hour ago
Most of the Red Hot Chili Peppers hit songs are pushing 30 years old. Their songs have already hit their peak popularity and will only be declining from now on.

This along with AI generated music flooding the market. An AI generated song has already been #1 on the iTunes Charts. AI generated music is only going to get better and more popular.

Future TV shows/movies/etc. will likely just be generating their own music, rather than paying royalties for "hit songs".

thierrydamibaabout 3 hours ago
This is as close as you get to a win win in life.
throw0101cabout 3 hours ago
PSA: this article is re-reporting the original story at:

> Rumours of the Chilis selling their catalogue first arose last year, with sources telling Billboard that the rockers were allegedly seeking around $350 million. Now, The Hollywood Reporter reports[1] that the band has finally made a deal with Warner Music Group, with the label paying over $300 million for all of the band’s master recordings.

[1] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-industry-news/...

tomhowabout 3 hours ago
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