Job: Head of Stonehenge

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ggm•about 19 hours ago

* Must be proficient in use of mistletoe in unspecified rituals.

* Must provide own sickle, and robes.

JoeDaDude•about 8 hours ago

* Must be willing to perform human sacrifices during select astronomical events?

nephihaha•about 8 hours ago

Must be fluent in Cornish.

thih9•about 6 hours ago

Must be proficient in brewing potions.

NOTE: Only cauldrons with a safety mechanism preventing anyone from falling into the potion can be used at the site; traditional Gaul type cauldrons do not qualify.

gbacon•about 8 hours ago

What about the wizard hat?

davidschof•about 19 hours ago

Their senior solution architect vacancy has similar pay: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/about/our-people/careers...

Somewhat less eminent job title though.

riffraff•about 19 hours ago

I would love to have "Stonehenge architect" as a job title.

gosub100•about 10 hours ago

Monolithic codebase though

stymaar•about 7 hours ago

Don't threaten me with good times.

1-more•about 7 hours ago

I'm counting the liths and I'm getting a lot more than mono

layer8•about 9 hours ago

It's still modular.

oaiey•about 18 hours ago

They really miss out on opportunities here.

sgt•about 14 hours ago

> We offer flexible working arrangements where the role allows. This role can be based at our offices in Swindon, or worked on a hybrid pattern. You will be required to attend our Swindon offices 1 day per week.

Pretty decent flexibility though.

zeafoamrun•about 9 hours ago

Yes but you can have a pint down at the pub on a warm summer evening with your colleagues after work. Almost makes up for it.

vanuatu•about 18 hours ago

that is abysmal!

soupfordummies•about 9 hours ago

36 hour work week, flexible hours, 25 paid holidays and a 10% pension though...

Ndymium•about 17 hours ago

As a Finnish dev with 12 years of experience, I can only aspire for such salary.

ksec•about 17 hours ago

Are you serious? Sarcasm Don't translate well on internet.

eterm•about 18 hours ago

That's a fairly standard wage outside London for senior developers.

UK wages are not great.

siva7•about 18 hours ago

i wouldn't call that standard wage, rather the lowest end of the spectrum where you could theoretically shop a "senior" outside of london.

dwroberts•about 14 hours ago

The balancing force to this though, is that cost of living outside of London is massively lower

Natfan•about 9 hours ago

american salaries must be ridiculous if £70k (~$93.5k) is considered "abysmal(ly)" low!

as others have said, some may be in for a very rude awakening...

nonethewiser•about 9 hours ago

$93.5K isn't abysmally low in the USA. Average is about 66k

$93.5k is abysmally low for a Senior Solutions Architect in the USA. I would expect at least $175k if not $200k+ on average. Plus stock and bonuses.

vanuatu•about 9 hours ago

For that level of experience you can prob get 200k in a MCOL area in the US, or up to 500k+ in HCOL

The rest of the world has already been in a rude awakening, talented engineers should be compensated well no matter where they happen to live

FinnKuhn•about 9 hours ago

And this is for a 36 hour work week.

ForHackernews•about 9 hours ago

Yes, American salaries are ridiculous in a global context. The rest of the world should demand better.

yzydserd•about 18 hours ago

Maybe you missed the “25% discount in our shops and cafes” perk for the day you need to be in the office. Score.

marysol5•about 16 hours ago

Wait till you see UK wages, when it's the UK arm of a US firm....

blitzar•about 17 hours ago

wait till you hear about the stock grants and vesting schedule

shalmanese•about 17 hours ago

Be warned though, the equity you are granted will be exceedingly illiquid.

SLHamlet•about 18 hours ago

RE Your predecessor

No one knows who he was, or what he was doing.

But his legacy remains hewn in the HR dock of Stonehenge.

nDRDY•about 16 hours ago

Some say he was let go after a design error lead to some dwarves kicking over the first stonehenge.

axolttl88•about 3 hours ago

While the stones are usually roped off from up close viewing still loom large because of their cultural impact, the area around them is beautiful. The Heritage org. has brought up huge tracts of land around them to protect it and restore it to the way it "was". You get to wander around most of those vast fields freely, among ancient mounds. On a nice summer's day, it really is one of the most peaceful and beautiful things to do.

tekchip•about 17 hours ago

"From £64,189 p.a. depending on skills and experience"

I maintained a collection of well organized rocks as a child. Surely that gets me a bit more than base pay right?

fergie•about 16 hours ago

Must be a rockstar

kitd•about 9 hours ago

Good at aligning rocks with stars

Lio•about 14 hours ago

There's got to be a way to shoehorn in a Spinal Tap reference here, I just haven't had enough coffee yet to think of it.

philipwhiuk•about 14 hours ago

The height of the stones goes to 13!

stinkbeetle•about 16 hours ago

I'm afraid that won't even get a foot in the door in this market. You must have at least 5 years experience managing Salisbury megaliths to meet the selection criteria.

blitzar•about 15 hours ago

even if you grind lots of leet-stone problems?

thih9•about 7 hours ago

I’m waiting for the “Head of Skull Rock[1]” position.

[1]: https://www.nps.gov/jotr/learn/nature/skull-rock-trail.htm

eliben•about 6 hours ago

Joshua Tree NP <3

madrox•about 19 hours ago

Building a henge, are we?

kombookcha•about 18 hours ago

You bastards, you never told me 200 miles. 200 miles in this day and age! I don't even know where I live now!

madrox•about 17 hours ago

I wish the Christians would hurry up and get here

kombookcha•about 16 hours ago

God, I had that entire Dress To Kill show loaded up on my old timey mp3-player along with Definite Article, Glorious and Sexie. Barely any room for music, but I was giggling my way through every day trying not to look too insane in public.

Izzard probably rewired my brain more than any other single comedian.

curtisblaine•about 17 hours ago

Technically Stonehenge is not an henge (even the term henge comes from Stonehenge)

> Ironically, even though Stonehenge has an earthwork circle around it (the earliest phase of the monument), it isn’t officially a ‘proper’ henge, as the main ditch is external to the main bank. It has to make do with being a ‘proto-henge’.

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/inspire-me/what-is...

chicagojoe•about 18 hours ago

I was slightly disappointed when I first visited Stonehenge as the standard tours keep you fairly far away and roped off.

But, I took a modestly more expensive "Inner Stones" tour a few months ago and lucked out being selected to be fully alone for a minute. It was a profound experience being in the middle of such a historic place.

Highly, highly recommended!

laurencerowe•about 18 hours ago

Best of all go during the summer solstice when there is free public access. It’s really quite fun.

During the the 1980s and ‘90s there were regular clashes between new age hippies and police stopping them from reaching Stonehenge during summer solstice before public access was allowed.

fanatic2pope•about 7 hours ago

I really enjoyed Newgrange in Ireland. It's huge, you can go inside it and as part of the tour they turn out the lights and simulate what it looks like on the solstice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange

madaxe_again•about 16 hours ago

I highly recommend avebury, about 20 minutes down the road. Absolutely enormous megalithic complex, huge man-made hill, and you can just wander where you wish, go hug a menhir, whatever you fancy - and there’s hardly ever more than a handful of other people there. Oh and it’s free.

TheOtherHobbes•about 16 hours ago

You must have gone at a quiet time. Avebury can be absolutely heaving in the Summer and on the traditional pagan quarter days.

It also has a pub, a restaurant, a gift shop, a museum founded by a marmalade magnate, and if you're really rich you can buy one of the houses inside the circle.

Generally a happier experience than Stonehenge.

If megalithic rocks are your thing there's also the nearby West Kennet Longbarrow, which is far more likely to be deserted, especially at night, although if you go on the quarter days (nights) you'll probably meet weirdly-dressed people lighting candles and throwing spells around.

jbaber•about 13 hours ago

West Kennet Longbarrow's also appropriately spooky. I've been there with people too scared to stay inside.

Quarrel•about 19 hours ago

Damnit. No WFH option.

teaearlgraycold•about 19 hours ago

Unless Stonehenge is your home

andrewstuart•about 18 hours ago

“Work From Henge”

mattoxic•about 18 hours ago

I would have thought you'd need to be a druid

hmokiguess•about 8 hours ago

Stonehenge! Stonehenge! Lots of stones in a row! (chor)

...

And they moved it (Stonehenge!)

And they dragged it (Stonehenge!)

And they rolled it 46 miles from Waleeees! - Heeey (46 miles from Wales! )

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klJhWr_FTaE

12_throw_away•about 6 hours ago

And hey, at £64K per annum, you'll want a Honda Civic - a car you can trust.

flurdy•about 10 hours ago

Ask one of the Ylvis brothers

throw310822•about 17 hours ago

Better than Head of Easter Island.

NoSalt•about 7 hours ago

Man, how awesome would that job be?

VikingCoder•about 10 hours ago

Does this seem like a Netflix show to anyone else?

xtorol•about 19 hours ago

Due to a typo in the paperwork sent to HR by the hiring manager, they are only paying 64,189 pence. The director was last heard chastising HR, saying "It's not your job to be as confused as Nigel."

bobmcnamara•about 9 hours ago

Experience?

I'm the head of pebble hedge!

rpaddock•about 12 hours ago

In the fall of 2023 I tried to visit Stonehenge. We arrived at 15:15 local time.

I was riding in the passenger seat.

There was a male and female police officer standing at the side of the road, beside a "Road Closed" sign blocking the entrance.

The male police officer came to my window and started yelling in my face:

"We are closed!! Come back another day!!!"

I knew it would be pointless to argue with this a-hole and there was no other day in my schedule that we could come back. So we left and never got to see it.

Do these old rocks get tired at three in the afternoon or what?

I'll be sending this Head of Stonehenge an email about the experiance...

pnut•about 10 hours ago

Sounds like VIP/head of state visit and terrible communication skills.

AlotOfReading•about 9 hours ago

The stones don't get tired, but the humans running the visitor center and keeping the tourists in line do. Operating a highly visited historical site like Stonehenge takes significantly more work than people realize.

rjmunro•about 9 hours ago

Last entry is at 3pm in winter because it takes a while to queue then catch the shuttle bus etc. and it gets dark, so closes at 5pm.

But if there were actual Police, not just English Heritage security, it sounds like something strange was happening that day, like a VIP visit or something.

It gets so busy that it's recommended to book a timeslot in advance on the website, even if you are a member and don't have to pay.

fsck4•about 6 hours ago

Dry stone masonry.

onion2k•about 18 hours ago

"If I get the role, what will my budget for repairs be?"

manarth•about 12 hours ago

Don't forget the twice-a-year realignment when the clocks change for daylight saving

hmokiguess•about 8 hours ago

Next up: Forward Deployed Wizard

faangguyindia•about 19 hours ago

i know quite a few dev ops and frontend guys who were employed for last 4 years and are now driving taxi in india.

readthenotes1•about 19 hours ago

"Job type Permanent"

I bet they enjoyed typing that in.

"5,000 years+ -- depends on you"

Might be another option if it were freeform text

12_throw_away•about 6 hours ago

I assumed "permanent" was industry jargon for "the ideal candidate will be sealed in the Pandorica for all time", but it's something I'd probably clarify during the phone screen.

russellbeattie•about 19 hours ago

I caught a live stream of Stonehenge during this past Winter Solstice (it was cloudy, naturally) and the streamer provided a bit of trivia that I hadn't heard before:

George Washington's English ancestors, specifically Sir Lawrence Washington, were the owners of the West Amesbury Estate in Wiltshire, England, which included the land where the ancient Stonehenge monument sits. (Via Google)

If you hadn't that before, welcome to the "Huh, that's a funny coincidence" club.

hdgvhicv•about 17 hours ago

Rich people have lots of descenders who tend to be rich.

Washington was a wealthy landowner in the British Empire, hardly surprising his ancestors were wealthy landowners.

robotresearcher•about 16 hours ago

What’s it a coincidence with?

marysol5•about 16 hours ago

"Rich man had a rich family, how queer"

lifestyleguru•about 15 hours ago

Land owners also had married within family so I you checked their family tree two persons could be simultaneously spouses and cousins. That's a coincidence!

zuzululu•about 19 hours ago

really wish i keot my british passport

Mistletoe•about 19 hours ago

Honestly feels like a dream job. Imagine your ancestors smiling down on you if you are from Britain or just human.

kijin•about 18 hours ago

Considering the location, I would imagine that the ancestors prefer to haunt the barrows at night. Still a dream job if that's your thing. Just watch out for the occasional Nazgûl. :)

nephihaha•about 8 hours ago

Or Nigel. No one knows who they were or what they were doing...

_alternator_•about 20 hours ago

On the front page? LLMs got lots of us programmers dreaming of leaving the profession, I suppose.

tyre•about 19 hours ago

Is this not super cool regardless? Even if you love tech, was a fun little gem.

celsius1414•about 19 hours ago

Missed opportunity to say they’re ‘looking for a rock star to lead our team!’

peebee67•about 19 hours ago

They pretty much are, too. It certainly reads like some tech job ads. Rock star with 30 years experience. Graduate wages.

tkocmathla•about 18 hours ago

The median income in the UK is currently sitting at £2,627 / week or £31,524 / year [1]. This is advertising more than double that at £64,189, not quite graduate wages!

[1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwor...

EDIT: £2,627 / month, not week!

NamlchakKhandro•about 17 hours ago

2.67 * 52 = 138.84

Not sure how you got 31,524

samplatt•about 18 hours ago

Tasks include: looking at rocks, stars.

thih9•about 7 hours ago

Due to advancements in calendar technology made in the last couple hundreds of years, the profile for this role has changed and tasks are now different.

laszlojamf•about 19 hours ago

"a solid leader who can carry the weight of our massive responsibility"

chappi42•about 18 hours ago

They don't look for rock stars. English heritage wants ideology:

"You can connect with others through our EDI networks as a member or ally. These include Ethnic Diversity, Faith & Belief, Social Equity, LGBTQ+, Neurodivergence, Age, Disability and Gender Health and Wellbeing."

(Should have mentioned Talibans, handy to blow up misplaced stones)

reaperducer•about 4 hours ago

They don't look for rock stars. English heritage wants ideology:

"…Age, Disability…"

You're going to be in for a rude awakening in 20 years when you're involuntarily a member of the groups you disdain.

kitd•about 17 hours ago

Why is that ideology?

chappi42•about 16 hours ago

DEI, "woke ideology". It is not ideology in a strict sense.

marysol5•about 16 hours ago

Are you ok?

chappi42•about 16 hours ago

What do you mean?

pants2•about 20 hours ago

Sounds like a very cool job, and not sure about the UK job market, but seems to be wildly underpaid for the qualifications!

kristianc•about 18 hours ago

This, shockingly, is actually quite well paid considering for the UK.

Lead Data Scientist for the UK Government is currently advertising for a salary of £57,670 - £67,500.

https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jco...

hdgvhicv•about 17 hours ago

Government jobs are terribly paid. They tend to have good pensions worth another 15-20k though and tend to be very flexible.

Project manager on 65-85k

https://uk.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=a43416327745431e

Lead data scientist 100-110k

https://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/lead-data-scientist/56925078

Neither of those are London based.

bdavbdav•about 13 hours ago

That’s government. They’re notoriously underpaid.

philipwhiuk•about 7 hours ago

And this is third sector.

kaonwarb•about 19 hours ago

Not disagreeing, but it's also worth something to know, and say, that you are in charge of Stonehenge.

sva_•about 19 hours ago

Must be an extraordinary honor to be in charge of a bunch of rocks over there.

cyclopeanutopia•about 18 hours ago

Wait until you learn some people are swapping bits all day long, isn't that crazy?

650REDHAIR•about 18 hours ago

Yes?

loeg•about 19 hours ago

This is like a 90th percentile UK salary.

marysol5•about 16 hours ago

In reality, because the "salaries" higher than this aren't paying in PAYE.

bdavbdav•about 13 hours ago

I’m not sure that’s strictly true. I think you’ve got to go a long way up the salary ladder until you’re in a situation where you can command more complicated arrangements (certainly when working for larger companies)

zipy124•about 10 hours ago

no. Most UK income statistics are based on total taxable income, not salary.

YZF•about 19 hours ago

36 hours per week. 25 days vacation (going to 28). Pension contributions. You can buy extra leave. Epic location, fun job, decent salary for the UK (where e.g. you don't pay for healthcare)...

robotresearcher•about 16 hours ago

You do pay for healthcare, from the taxes on that salary.

marysol5•about 16 hours ago

Fun fact, so do Americans, just they don't get the service for it!

ifjfkfkfkfj•about 8 hours ago

> you don't pay for healthcare

It is bloody expensive, if you want life saving surgery now, not in two years!

Tepix•about 17 hours ago

Yeah, the 25 days of vacation are a bit disappointing, in Germany 30 days are standard.

wyclif•about 7 hours ago

Talked to a German guy who was here on holiday recently. When I told him that in the US it's typical to get two weeks vacation when starting a new job, you should have seen his eyes bug out. It was hilarious.

tikkabhuna•about 17 hours ago

Is that including or excluding bank holidays? In the UK, 25 days excluding the 8 bank holidays is pretty standard.

ascorbic•about 17 hours ago

This is a decent salary for a heritage job. It is a very poorly-paid sector. On building sites with archaeological excavations, the person driving the digger is likely to be paid more than the archaeologists, who probably have postgraduate degrees.

jrflo•about 18 hours ago

I'm not in the UK, but from what I understand that's actually decent. US salaries, particularly in tech, are wildly higher than in most of Europe.

oaiey•about 18 hours ago

UK tech salaries are also not high. And 64k pounds for a history and/or business major is quite right. Do not forget also: history is a overrun study with many people afterwards driving taxis

phyzix5761•about 19 hours ago

Don't forget to deduct the 25% effective tax rate.

Calculator: https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/estimate-paye-take-home-pay/y...

techterrier•about 19 hours ago

this isnt all that *bad for something in the conservation / heritage / ngo sector

edit: *obviously its not a wonderful salary, but for the sector....well I've seen worse.

moomin•about 17 hours ago

The charity sector rarely pays well.

swarnie•about 19 hours ago

Just a smidge over $63k after tax and before gibbs.

The job market over here is shocking.

loeg•about 19 hours ago

This is equivalent to $85,700 USD, not $63k.

theodric•about 19 hours ago

Read it again. $63k after tax and before "gibbs" i.e. government-provided social distributions.

dismalaf•about 19 hours ago

Lol in Canada 64,000 pounds = $120K CAD which would put you in the 92nd income percentile.

y-curious•about 19 hours ago

Especially considering minimum wage “salary” in the UK is ~24k GBP, 64k is nothing imo. They call it the “wage squeeze”

UnfitFootprint•about 19 hours ago

Average full time salary is 40k GBP. It’s +50% on the average which seems right for a non profit organisation in a non exec role

jacknews•about 18 hours ago

It is a leadership role though.

I don't know how many staff there are, but it's surely one of EH's most important locations.

laurencerowe•about 17 hours ago

The UK has had substantially less wage inequality than the US for a long time. The UK “wage squeeze” is median/minimum wage which has gone from the 1/3 to 2/3 since ~2000 as the minimum wage has been raised. But the relevant difference here would be around 90th percentile/median which is 1.85 in UK vs 2.4 in US and even higher in California.

hdgvhicv•about 17 hours ago

And over time the ratio is similar - 90%ile about 1.9 times median for the last 30 years.

loeg•about 19 hours ago

This is like 90th percentile UK salary. It's good pay for the UK, a poor country.

gbro3n•about 19 hours ago

The UK is still the 5th biggest economy in the world. Public infrastructure feels like it's under huge strain however, and there is also a big problem with inequality, which seems to be changing under Labour, albeit slowly.

geysersam•about 19 hours ago

Let's not be delusional. The UK is not a poor country, and 64K is low by US tech standards but it's good by any other measure.

enraged_camel•about 19 hours ago

Yeah, but 25 days holiday plus bank holidays means you're working like half the year at most. ;)

dylan604•about 19 hours ago

And don't you knock of at lunch on Fridays anyways? So that's like a 4 day work week, because let's face it, you're not really doing anything on the day you're knocking off early anyways. See you at the pub!

green_wheel•about 19 hours ago

What's your role?

I'm a CSO.

Oh nice, Strategy or Security?

Stonehenge.

quuxplusone•about 19 hours ago

"Just to be clear, you are saying you manage a hedge fund, right?"

"Yeah, a henge fund."

"Hedge fund."

"Henge fund."

"Hedge."

"Henge."

"...I think we're on the same page."

appplication•about 19 hours ago

This had me giggling, thank you

bfeist•about 19 hours ago

Heard of it?

smashah•about 19 hours ago

Stonehenge would be a great AI Lab name!