DeepSeek Introduces Vision

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RRIshabh235 about 3 hours ago 53 commentsRead Article on chat.deepseek.com

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rcMgD2BwE72F•about 2 hours ago

Points to https://chat.deepseek.com/sign_in for me, that's just a login screen. Anything page with some info?

RIshabh235•about 2 hours ago

Not in official news yet, but works for me https://files.catbox.moe/hnnnlx.png

dude250711•38 minutes ago

OP made a mistake, confused HN and https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepSeek .

jiehong•about 2 hours ago

For those not trying, this allows Deepseek to understand a picture (instead of just extracting text from it), and it can describe what's in the picture, but this is not an image generation system, so you can't ask it to modify an image.

Personally, I'm a bit surprised the DS chat app still doesn't offer its own text to speech and speech to text features (I know DS doesn't have any ASR model for example, but there are quite a few in the open).

paulluuk•about 1 hour ago

Can you explain what the benefits are of actually "talking" with the bot instead of typing and reading?

As someone who would rather send a slack message to a coworker rather than actually walking over and talk to them, the idea of having to talk with my laptop is not appealing at all, haha.

itake•3 minutes ago

I am someone that prefers a slack message to a coworker than talking to them and I use AI.

My current flow is: Google Eloquent to capture 127WPM (my typing is best case is 65wpm). This lets me get the thoughts out without thinking too much about structure or flow, the same way I would brain-dump type it.

Next I use AI to compress, summarize, and restructure to create a clear coherent message for my peer to read (which is way faster for them).

When communicating with AI, its the same thing, except I skip the second step since AI does a good job at understanding my ramblings.

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It drives me crazy that some cultures only send voice messages to each other. It drives me crazy they can't be respectful of my time and use STT+AI to convert their 90 second monologue to a few written sentences.

arcanemachiner•8 minutes ago

Much faster and better flow. Don't knock it til you've tried it.

throawayonthe•19 minutes ago

it's very confusing. maaaybe if the stt is good and fast enough, speaking may be faster? english speakers can probably hit 150-180 wpm but seems like a hassle

stranded22•23 minutes ago

Accessibility.

thiago_fm•1 minute ago

Just wait until they release their coding model. Once they do an Opus-level coding model, the sandcastle of the AI economy in the US will fall

bjoli•about 2 hours ago

What has been going on with deepseek recently? I have gotten lots of replies in Chinese and even more frequently, reasoning in Chinese as well.

Is it a new silent update?

Shank•about 2 hours ago

Well, it is a Chinese model, maybe it thinks better in Chinese?

bogdan•about 1 hour ago

Hànzì can use 30%-40% fewer tokens than English. So, yes, it probably thinks better in Chinese.

Razengan•40 minutes ago

If so, would other models like ChatGPT benefit from translating the user's prompt to Chinese/Japanese and thinking in Hanzi/Kanji and then converting the response back to the user's language before displaying it?

serf•about 1 hour ago

This happens to me a lot when I ask a qwen3.6 model to respond to a question in JSON. No clue why.

surgical_fire•about 1 hour ago

I use DeepSeek daily, never happened to me.

I use the API however, not the chat interface.

abyssin•about 2 hours ago

It doesn’t seem that recent to me, at least been like that for six months.

RIshabh235•about 2 hours ago

yes, kind of silent update plus they might have better chinese datasets and user data for their training, that might be leading to chinese preference.

alfiedotwtf•about 2 hours ago

Are you running out of context? I’ve found that tooling and giberish most of the time happens when I’m butting up against the high watermark of my context window. One other thing it could be, I’ve read that lower quanta like Q1 and Q2 for smaller models can leak Chinese

epolanski•about 2 hours ago

It never happened to me with Deepseek, but it happened multiple times with Kimi 2.6.

It also happened a handful of times with Anthropic models.

throwaw12•about 1 hour ago

I wish they published a post where we read about capabilities, quality, accuracy and other parameters

tornikeo•about 2 hours ago

I really need this as an API.

Turns out, to use Claude Agents SDK, you need to have a vision enabled API. If Deepseek API could see, it can fully drive Claude Code and Claude Agents SDK. A project I'm working on relies on a Claude-in-CloudflareWorker setup and I've been relying on Qwen and gemini flash lite, both more expensive than Deepseek.

Can't wait to have it available on deepseek.

5701652400•3 minutes ago

same here. I am using Gemini 2.5 Flash as VSCode "vision proivder" for Deepseek V4 Pro, but it is expensive and not accurate. can't wait for native Deepseek vision.

petesergeant•about 1 hour ago

Have you looked at MiniMax or MiMo? Available today via OpenRouter, and it’ll make the path to porting to DeepSeek a line change https://openrouter.ai/collections/vision-models

arjie•about 2 hours ago

If they'd do one of those little extraneous additions like Qwen does, so that I can have DS4 Flash with Vision that would be great. I've got to run a separate model entirely so that I can get vision and I'd prefer to just put it all in one space.

RIshabh235•about 1 hour ago

Maybe they will do now as they got huge funding.

alexwwang•31 minutes ago

Does the api support vision yet?

RIshabh235•22 minutes ago

No announcements about it yet.

alexwwang•19 minutes ago

That makes sense. I haven’t found it work in api yet.

earth2mars•about 2 hours ago

And it's really good and fast. Have tested with bunch of odd photos on what is happening. Overall the training set seems large enough to know what's what and where

RIshabh235•about 2 hours ago

yes and I hope their rate of shipping increases after recent funding.

crvdgc•about 2 hours ago

Vision has been in A/B testing for a while now (at least in China). Is there an official announcement that this will be available for everyone?

RIshabh235•about 2 hours ago

I haven't seen any official announcement yet, works for me though.

innis226•about 2 hours ago

Nice, is this available in the API now as well?

naseemali925•about 2 hours ago

I am also waiting on the vision support in API. Its the only thing blocking me from buying their subscription.

dakolli•about 1 hour ago

What subscription?

naseemali925•25 minutes ago

I mean't topup. They don't have subsciptions.

RIshabh235•about 2 hours ago

Not in the api yet.

tw1984•43 minutes ago

what is more interesting to me is why it takes so long for them to support vision.

does it implies that Liang believes vision/voice is less important on its way to AGI?

RIshabh235•10 minutes ago

Might be compute bottleneck due to the US chips act and migrating to Huawei ecosystem.

andrewstuart•about 2 hours ago

OpenAI and Anthropic need to get this free foreign competition banned.

0xpgm•18 minutes ago

Is that before or after the OpenAI and Anthropic pay off all the people and companies who's copyrights were violated when they used their works for free to train their models?

At least DeepSeek freely gives back the benefits.

epolanski•about 2 hours ago

Care to expand on why? Or did you forgot the /s at the end?

dudisubekti•about 2 hours ago

I feel like '/s' has ruined irony on the internet. Irony is at its best if left ambiguous, lol.

cromka•about 1 hour ago

Nah, they're serious actually!

Weryj•about 2 hours ago

Wait, did that need a /s?

ReptileMan•about 2 hours ago

If everything goes to plan everyone involved with big US models will be trillionaire and everyone else will poor and unemployed. If there are open and cheap to run Chinese models (and please god silicon) the financial house of cards that we have build will fall, people involved with big US models will be poor and unemployed, and everyone else will be slightly less poor and unemployed than in the first scenario.

What is good for Dario is good for America.

andrewstuart•about 1 hour ago

Why do you think it’s free?

Any ideas, theories where they get their payoff?

cromka•about 1 hour ago

Yes, subscription options they sell on deepseek.com