Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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ndiddy•about 2 hours ago

Iran’s perspective seems to be that their sovereignty will continue to be threatened by Israel if the US doesn’t start using its considerable amount of leverage over Israel to force them to stand down. I’m not sure how likely this would be, but Trump said that the US would start facing drastic fuel shortages and enter a recession in the next few weeks if he didn’t sign off on the MOU (which seems like a dumb thing to say while negotiations are ongoing but whatever), so it seems like Iran has a lot of power here. Ultimately, I think Trump and Netanyahu’s decision to start this war may result in the largest shift in the Middle Eastern power balance since the post-World War II period.

whyage•43 minutes ago

It was astonishing to see the praise heaped on Trump by Israeli citizens and leaders, who believed he was their savior. I wonder if it's going to change now, not because he's giving up on them (which he seems to), but because they have nobody else left to rely on. Constant incoming ass kissing is effective when it comes to him, so their best strategy might be to keep going until he changes his mind again.

moogly•3 minutes ago

Israeli trust in Trump has already plummeted[1].

[1]: https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-71-of-israelis-dont-trust...

RevEng•about 1 hour ago

Trump agreed to the MoU saying it's allies would stop attacks, including in Lebanon. Israel continues to bomb it. It's up to Trump to put pressure on Israel to stop in order to make good on his deal. It's no surprise this is instantly falling apart - Trump promised something he couldn't deliver. We can only hope that he does eventually put enough pressure on Israel to stop.

cosmicgadget•about 1 hour ago

So Iran can shield Hezbollah and other allies/proxies via its stranglehold on the strait. This is quite the shift.

floren•about 2 hours ago

Iran has figured out it can make the US president look like an idiot over and over at relatively low cost to themselves, since they're already so thoroughly excluded from the rest of the world.

Havoc•43 minutes ago

Oh I think he manages to look like an idiot without external help...

aaomidi•about 1 hour ago

Or, US can’t figure out how to tell Israel to stop going insane

sameersri2004•about 1 hour ago

Well you can definitely crack Donald Trump's image but when it comes to the loss, most of the loss will be borne by common people. Oil prices will once again rise markets once again fall and AI is already taking jobs. Inflation will rise along with unemployment and bad times are coming. This is happening mostly because of the foolishness of Trump.

pvaldes•about 1 hour ago

Iran or Israel?

kelseyfrog•about 2 hours ago

Iran is Lucy, Trump is Charlie Brown, and the Straight of Hormuz is the football

Jamesbeam•about 1 hour ago

most beautiful analogy I read today.

dzhiurgis•31 minutes ago

> relatively low cost to themselves

You really believe that? Because bombing will continue until morale improves.

watwut•about 2 hours ago

I think it is about making US pressure Israel and eventually rupturing that relationship.

Meanwhile, Israel is trying to sabotage the peace process and dont care about that relationship.

moogly•16 minutes ago

Of course it is. It's literally the first provision in the MoU.

2OEH8eoCRo0•43 minutes ago

I think so too. Tying the conflict in Lebanon to the strait will drive a wedge between the US and Israel.

cosmicgadget•about 1 hour ago

Of all the stupidity of this saga, believing Israel would simply go along with an agreement requiring them to not attack Lebanon is the stupidest.

SilverElfin•41 minutes ago

I don’t think it’s that. I think Trump and the US could simply use brute force to stop Iran’s attacks, control the strait, and replace the Islamic fundamentalist regime. If they wanted to.

But that’s not profitable to Trump and his family and friends and donors. By making announcements and deals and truces all the time, they can make trades anticipating each dishonest announcement. And that makes them incredibly rich and powerful.

Trump doesn’t care if anyone thinks he’s an idiot. He’s actually doing quite well if you consider the goal to be selfish corruption.

mindslight•about 2 hours ago

The real question is why does this make Grump look like an idiot any more than the numerous other idiotic things he's already done.

conception•about 2 hours ago

Unlike most times this affects people’s pocketbooks- the only real political motivation.

ravoori•about 2 hours ago

Approval still rides at 37%, which is pretty decent given the amount of turmoil that has been unleashed

Danox•about 2 hours ago

It’s exhausting every day every week every month it’s a new low, just when you thought it couldn’t get any lower or dumber…

pvaldes•about 1 hour ago

> why does this make Grump look like an idiot any more

Because this time his error is at a new level. Many countries had seen their strategic reserves of gasoline seriously reduced and about to disappear, and the fertilizers (that they need to feed their population in the next year) never arrived on time. His so called "little excursion" could kill much more people than any other of his former actions. For no reason or benefit.

And Israel isn't helping at all. They backstabbed Biden when he needed their help most in the elections, and are backstabbing Trump when he is desperate for the midterms. Everybody can see that Bibi plays Trump like a violin.

indoorfish•about 2 hours ago

cut ties with israel at this point?

moogly•about 2 hours ago

Aragchi was likely correct in saying the Israeli death cult is a threat to all of humanity at this point. This is untenable.

sghiassy•about 2 hours ago

Art of the Deal sigh

watwut•about 2 hours ago

It is closed! Open! Closed! Open! Closed!

We are negotiating! We dont! We do! We dont! We on the plane! We are not!

CSSer•about 1 hour ago

Everything is going to plan! Protect the precious bodily fluids.

2OEH8eoCRo0•about 1 hour ago

So from now on every time Israel is attacked and responds the strait will be closed.

Masterstroke of diplomacy and military power. /s

Daishiman•21 minutes ago

Beg Gvir said that all of Lebanon must burn. Consider who is the real aggressor here.

kgwxd•22 minutes ago

Speak ill of no man

backlit4034•39 minutes ago

TACO