Back to News
Advertisement
Advertisement

⚡ Community Insights

Discussion Sentiment

70% Positive

Analyzed from 460 words in the discussion.

Trending Topics

#https#com#nomograms#nomogram#www#bayes#rule#form#org#odds

Discussion (23 Comments)Read Original on HackerNews

cscheid•1 day ago
Seriously, though, there's one nomogram you (yes you) should know about and have it well-enough engraved in your mind's eye that you can use it with eyes closed. A nomogram for Bayes' theorem: https://www.ovid.com/journals/nejm/abstract/10.1056/nejm1975...
speff•1 day ago
That was a bit small on my screen. Found an interactive one here that's scalable - https://www.medcalc.org/en/calc/fagans-nomogram.php
senkora•1 day ago
That is cool, although it took me awhile to understand it because the posterior probability is on the left and the prior probability is on the right, and because it uses D=Disease and T=Test when I am used to seeing D=Data.
kqr•1 day ago
Neat. This is based on Bayes' rule in its odds form[1], or more specifically in log-odds form, where evidence is additive[2].

[1]: https://entropicthoughts.com/bayes-rule-odds-form

[2]: https://entropicthoughts.com/sensitivity-counts-against-you

riedel•1 day ago
Actually I find nomograms in log form really cool for making naive bayes classifiers 'explainable'. One can even add density for continuous values.

IMHO this is so much nicer than e.g. decisions tree visualizations (which everyone quotes for the most explainable AI models).

tgv•1 day ago
It is indeed a great tool for visualizing Bayesian relations. You can even "feel" the sensitivity.
trunch•1 day ago
Can you use actually use it eyes closed? Never heard of that level of precision in the mind's eye
alnwlsn•1 day ago
If you like things like this I can recommend you check out the Chris Staecker youtube channel. He covers all sorts of tools people used to use to do math before computers and calculators, and there are a lot of them. Some of the things people came up with to do what today would be considered relatively simple math are pretty clever, pretty complex, or both.

https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisStaecker

forgotpwagain•1 day ago
The Smith chart is the electrical engineer's favorite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_chart

You either love it or hate it, depending on how well your electromagnetics class was taught.

onefiftymike•1 day ago
Here’s an old python program to make pdf nomograms from almost any formula. The example of payment for a loan is one of my favorites.

https://github.com/lefakkomies/pynomo

JKCalhoun•about 24 hours ago
I am fascinated with nomograms ever since I stumbled upon them.

I spent some time earlier this year creating one for two resistors in parallel. I had seen it in an old book [1] but it was of poor quality.

(I tried to get Gemini writing to write code to generate an SVG file—but it was pretty poor compared to the one that I had done by hand in Affinity Designer.)

[1] https://www.worldradiohistory.com/BOOKSHELF-ARH/Technology/T...

LelouBil•1 day ago
I read the title as "Nonogram" (Picross) at first !
smitty1e•about 24 hours ago
I read PyNomo as "Py no mo' " and was overcome by a feeling of loss.
analogpixel•1 day ago
video explaining what a Nomogram is and how to make them by hand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCd9hANNLsw
cckolon•1 day ago
The US Navy still uses nomograms for chemistry control on nuclear reactors!
kqr•about 15 hours ago
So far my children have not yet had to repeatedly perform complicated calculations, but I look forward to the day. I will definitely teach them with nomograms before we go on to spreadsheets!

Another type of almost-nomogram that's great and practical is the slide rule. In particular in the kitchen, where it makes it really easy to translate proportions. https://entropicthoughts.com/kitchen-slide-rule

dostick•about 23 hours ago
Also those who want to quit doing drugs should have one.
QuesnayJr•1 day ago
There's an old paper about the mathematics of nomograms that I found interested when I stumbled across it: https://doi.org/10.1016/0001-8708(65)90042-3
Advertisement
nok22kon•1 day ago
I think the Numogram is more interesting, highly relevant today due to AI happenings