DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis

baalimago•5 minutes ago

New Deepseek models are like Christmas for me. Really big fan of low cost API models, noone does it better than DS. Until VRAM price is low enough to run models locally, this is the way to go.

The subsidized subscription model won't last, API pricing "feels" closer to a true sustainable business model.

throwaw12•25 minutes ago

If deepseek v4 flash is beating DeepSeek V4 Pro, can we expect new V4 Pro which is on par with Opus 5 in couple weeks (even better if it beats Opus)?

k1e•8 minutes ago

No speed (tokens/s) benchmarks?

k__•2 minutes ago

On OpenRouter it's 93 TPS.

monooso•about 2 hours ago

404. I believe this is the correct URL:

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash

theanonymousone•about 1 hour ago

Yes, sorry, I went into anti-procrastination mode after I posted. I hope someone fixes it.

WithinReason•about 2 hours ago

Already beat Luna on price/task, by about 2x:

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash?intel...

spwa4•about 1 hour ago

Maybe I'm reading that incorrectly, but it seems to me the cost is on the X-axis.

First, your direct comparison, Deepseek V4 Flash 0731 (max effort) $0.03 (rounded up) per task @ index 50.

OpenAI Luna:

* high effort $0.03 (rounded down) @ index 46

* xhigh effort $0.04 @ index 49

* max effort $0.07 @ index 51

So I would say a fair statement would be "OpenAI Luna between 2x and 3x the price of Deepseek Flash, what you get is 2 to 5 times faster inference"

The cheapest OpenAI model that beats it is OpenAI Luna (max effort) $0.07 @ index 51 (if you take the rounding out it summarizes to triple the price for similar performance), but still close to 3x faster.

And can SOMEONE please tell artificialanalysis that using dark blue for both Deepseek AND OpenAI is an especially unfortunate choice of colors, especially today?

andai•2 minutes ago

For anything substantial, you'd want a bigger model anyway.

For simple tasks, they're already saturated, and you'd prefer the faster model, so that you can have a realtime/interactive-ish experience.

embedding-shape•about 2 hours ago

Is the "Output Tokens per Intelligence Index Task" data actually correct or am I reading it wrong? It says there that "Kimi K3 (Max)" would think/reason less than than deepseek-v4-flash, and a whole bunch of other models, like less than hy3 and even gpt-oss-120b, but in my experience, K3 is probably the model that thinks/reasons the longest of all of these.

Am I just using it on tasks that makes it go on forever vs these benchmarks that are short&sweet, or something like that? I've been throwing bunch of identical prompts at different models at the same time, and when comparing hy3 and K3 I've never once had K3 reason less than hy3, as just one anecdotal data point.

qtalen•23 minutes ago

Unfortunately, DeepSeek Flash still doesn’t support multimodal; otherwise, it would offer better value than GPT 5.6 SOL.

yonisto•16 minutes ago

Does it already know the answer to what happen at Tiananmen Square? Or still avoiding it?

xbmcuser•6 minutes ago

Who cares if it is programming correctly I would be more worried about it not doing things like find security bugs because US or Chinese government does not want to. Which LLM is more likely to do that?

lostmsu•about 2 hours ago

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash

DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis

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