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raincole1 day ago
OS X: 21.14%

macOS: 8.6%

Yeah, if you believe this kind of stats it's on yourself.

Also why are you posting a random reddit link? It doesn't even match up the latest stats provided on the official source: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...

laserbeam1 day ago
It does match statcounter if you filter for North America.
prologic1 day ago
Aren't macOS and OS X the same thing?

> Launch: Released in March 2001 as Mac OS X 10.0 "Cheetah", replacing the classic > Mac OS.Name Change: Shortened to OS X starting with version 10.8 / 10.9 in 2012, and rebranded to macOS in 2016.

kelnos1 day ago
I think that's the GP's point. If the people who put this together are too lazy/uninformed/incompetent to combine those two categories into one (because yes, they are the same thing), why would I believe anything about their collection methodology?
eddythompson801 day ago
Even if you assume OS X is 1999-2016 and macOS is 2016- then the numbers are still odd.
kirbabout 24 hours ago
It’s hard to trust StatCounter, or anyone presenting web traffic stats at this point, after they showed a large spike in Windows 7 users for a few months, before it suddenly disappeared. (Even better: the blogs reporting on it with a made-up conclusion that users were revolting against Windows 11.) Bots want to act like humans, they run client-side JS, and they use residential proxies.

https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/10/02/no-windows-7-isnt-g...

VCFundedGenYerabout 16 hours ago
Sort of. Apple half-heartedly changed their version numbers after 10.15, but there were times where they wrote both the 10.X and N+1.x versions elsewhere, so I think it's just generally a confusing mess with them now.

iPadOS masks itself as macOS/OS X (depending on where you look), so that doesn't help either.

ouchqtabout 24 hours ago
My understanding is that apple officially changed from OS X to macOS in 2020 with the launch of macOS 11, even though the branding changed a few years earlier.
relyks1 day ago
We should really be able to downvote submissions... This analysis is clearly factually inaccurate. I am curious to know why OS X and macOS are showing up separately though
csomar1 day ago
The thing is, there is an ongoing linux boom (the percentage doubled which means linux user base has effectively doubled too). But god help us in this AI-slop phase.
padjoabout 24 hours ago
StatCounter is a joke.
timbit42about 11 hours ago
Cloudflare is showing 9.2%. Steam is showing 7%. US gov is showing similar stats.
bigfatkitten1 day ago
The separation of “OS X” and “macOS” gives me pause about the reliability of the other figures, particularly Linux and Chrome OS.
wmf1 day ago
The last release of OS X was 11 years ago but this site shows it having over twice as many users as macOS. It's totally implausible.
Caligatio1 day ago
I haven't done any investigation but some scraper and/or bot configuration uses OS X as its user agent.

I run an unpublished service used by 1s of people and was hit by an influx of supposed OS X user agents that didn't correspond to my actual user base.

gr_norm1 day ago
bawolff1 day ago
I imagine a big part of the puzzle is that many people do not even use laptops/desktops regularly anymore, just phones and tablets
nwah11 day ago
Also, Chromebooks.
Brian_K_White1 day ago
I don't think I've ever seen a single chromebook in the wild being used by a real person for real. I am sure they exist of course. I must have even seen one and forgotten it. But in all the years since they have existed, and all the varied people I've come in contact with in all those years, if I can't think of any, then the percentage is low.

I think a relative's kid had one issued in high school a few years ago. There you go. One out of who knows how many hundreds, and that one was not even a voluntary purchase. In fact that same kid built himself a budget desktop gaming & streaming rig when deciding what to do with his own money. So I wouldn't even call him a chromebook user. The chromebook was just school equipment he had to operate like a copier or projector.

tapoxi1 day ago
Yea Chromebooks are wildly popular in American education. They've replaced the school desktop PC.
eru1 day ago
I used one in the wild, but I was working for Google at the time.
myaccountonhn1 day ago
I think Linux is getting a lot more popular, but not this popular.
toplinesoftsys1 day ago
Yes, the dam has been broken. Major linux distibutions are getting polished for many decades already and they are totally ready for the mainstream adoption. No amount of marketing will be able to reverse this trend. Considering that Big Tech is spending all their earned money (and even more by borrowing from investors) on AI, nobody will be even trying.
NitpickLawyer1 day ago
Depending on how this data is being collected, a factor could be the rise of search / fetch / scrape capabilities, added in lots of places. Agentic this, google killer that, and so on. The easiest way to parse web content nowadays is to load up a browser and drive that. And thats easier to do with linux / mac distros, both at scale (i.e. datacenter based solutions) and at home.

As a bit of a side note, this year I started noticing captchas / cf verify speed bumps while browsing from the same residential ISP with the same mac laptop. I never used to get them. Maybe has to do with all that "buy a mac mini" craze that happened a while ago.

simongray1 day ago
I don't think these numbers are correct, but desktop Linux is no doubt having its year now. So many big YouTube content creators are covering Linux content and switching to Linux specifically, since the major obstacle to switching (gaming) has now been solved. Add to that the push effect from the constant enshittification of Windows.
ediamondscience1 day ago
I don't know if the BSD folks would be happy to see it mentioned or unhappy that it's at 0%. At least you know that most of those users are human
eurleif1 day ago
Netcraft confirms it...
IAmGraydon1 day ago
Unfortunately, Cloudflare does not agree if you filter for "likely human", which results in 6%. If you include bots, it hits 9.3%.

https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=o...

cwnyth1 day ago
6% is still significant. I'm used to seeing 3-5 in that slot. Hey, I'll take any increase, even a single percentage!
benjaminl1 day ago
It’s still really strange that Linux is several times larger than ChromeOS. I would not have guessed this. And I daily drove Linux for years.
hparadiz1 day ago
In what universe would I jump from a proprietary OS to another proprietary OS without a damn good reason?
abdullahkhalids1 day ago
If you increase the date range to 12 months, you see that (with "likely human"), linux usage jumped from 3-4% to 5%-6% in the last 1.5 months. Something changed.

ChromeOS jumped down several points in the same time period. So maybe some update of ChromeOS got misconfigured?

SwellJoe1 day ago
6%-14% (throughout the day, for some reason it's most popular late at night, Steam Box and other gamers, maybe?) is still the largest it's ever been, though, and it's presumably not getting smaller.

It's about the same as Firefox share, which is getting smaller.

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andrewstuart1 day ago
I do not believe this. Unless it’s some sort of tricksy word game or counting android or something.

There is 0% chance that 10% of desktops/laptops are running desktop Linux.

Der_Einzige1 day ago
The same people who believe these numbers also think open routers token measurements are indicative of total token demand - lol.
hedgehog1 day ago
rvz1 day ago
Imagine first thinking that humans are using Linux on the Desktop after seeing this (without specifying which distro) and then realizing that it is bots which are the "desktop users" because they are using Chrome to scrape websites since forever.
paxys1 day ago
Source: vibes
wmf1 day ago
I guess Steam OS counts as Linux?
intothemild1 day ago
That's because it is Linux, specifically Arch.

All Linux is Linux.