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saagarjhaabout 1 hour ago
I guess he decided he had ruined the platform enough. Before he joined X had already implemented the login wall stuff that only let you view a single post, by the time he left it would show a tapping animation trying to beg you to install the app, open the App Store immediately if you interacted with anything, and put up a bunch of popovers. I hope that his changes increased engagement in the way he had hoped.
tyre24 minutes ago
Nikita was always a bad hire.

If you look at his history, he’s really good at growth hacking apps to pump-and-dump into acquisitions. He hasn’t proven himself in building lasting products.

His last app, Gas, saw meteoric growth from some truly impressive growth hacking on children, but then got acquired by Discord and very soon after tanked. Same with whatever he’d sold to Facebook.

His (and others’ defense) to criticism has always been, “I made a lot of money on an exit,” which, sure, whatever. Personally, I don’t find that very interesting or compelling.

He fit Musk’s profile (brash, extremely online Take Haver), but not the kind of person you want leading product.

afavourabout 2 hours ago
https://xcancel.com/nikitabier/status/2085105586966827343#m

The most consequential change in recent years has been to pay users for posting controversial content. For me that killed the service. Anything else is secondary.

InterviewFrogabout 1 hour ago
it has always been this way across every platform.

most people don't pay attention to anything that isn't controversial or extreme. Thats just how our brains work and thats the reason why MrBeast's advice on making it on youtube is the way it is.

mplewis37 minutes ago
the fact that this recently changed on twitter means it has not, in fact, "always been this way across every platform"
orsornaabout 1 hour ago
Man this guy was obnoxious. Even his farewell post is dripping in annoying quips.
mmonaghan10 minutes ago
People love hating on x and nikita but both the app & web experience have improved dramatically over the last year+. He's done a great job in a year and there seems to be even more internal stuff he's improved that we haven't seen.
jjcm33 minutes ago
There's a lot of negative about twitter here, especially related to timeline being shit.

I'd like to give a different perspective - it's an algorithmic feed like anything else, it surfaces what you engage with. There are good niches on it. My feed is a mix of designers and AI engineers - not leaders, but people on the ground making things.

There's definitely been weird things politically with it, but content wise it really isn't as bad as people demonize it to be.

kypro19 minutes ago
I want to echo this point. My X feed is not full of politics either. It tends to just be a mix of stuff I engage with, and I tend to engage with stuff I find interesting or funny.

Lots of economic and tech stuff, and some memes.

I often hear people say the same thing about the YouTube algorithm which also confuses me because the YouTube algorithm is amazing at surfacing a wide range of content I'd never had watched back in the subscription days.

I suspect most people who have a bad experience with these algorithms could have a much better experience if they didn't engage in low effort rage bait content.

browningstreet4 minutes ago
I’m on X only for my business (AI, tech, startups) and stick to only my Following feed. But the second I accidentally click on the “For You” tab it’s a complete, utter, bot primed shit show.

That shit show us a direct result of Musk’s guidance and participation. Bier says he worked to eliminate bots, but the For You tab argues otherwise.

Zealotuxabout 1 hour ago
What an absolute miserable experience Twitter is now, even more than before, I can feel my cortisol spiking every time I open that website.
ZiiSabout 1 hour ago
Maybe stop?
outside123430 minutes ago
Stop using it! It is like an oxy addiction and we all just need to stop - it isn't good for us.
axodabout 1 hour ago
Isn’t the whole point that they don’t want you to use the website - they want you to install the app. Why would they make the website an enjoyable experience?
762236about 1 hour ago
It's wild to me how many replies are like this. I like X. HN, on the other hand is miserable, with censorship through down votes of unorthodox thinkers (PG would be completely down voted if he were to post here anonymously).
dgellowabout 1 hour ago
Ironically for you, the HN guidelines recommend to not complain about the voting system:

> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

drstewart21 minutes ago
Now read the rest of those guidelines and then other comments in this thread.
everfrustrated43 minutes ago
I find I get a lot more hacker news from X now than HN.

AI, database tech, etc I find I read about it on X much earlier and the comments are a lot less negative.

X is what you make it. It will feed you with more of what you read and interact with.

DoesntMatter22about 1 hour ago
Agree totally. X is pretty open. I like reading the stories her more but it's an extreme group think of only one position
mosuraabout 1 hour ago
Maybe it is me, but for a random Wednesday in August there have been a strange amount of big moves today. Normally you expect quiet or nonsense.
neko_rangerabout 1 hour ago
maybe the tech trade deadline is this week (baseball's was on monday)
unsupp0rtedabout 1 hour ago
> We've climbed 70 spots in the App Store since this time last year.

Shows how valuable the Play Store is to them

Aboutplants24 minutes ago
The first SpaceX stock lockup expiration is tomorrow, timing seems nice assuming he had some in his pay package.
interleaveabout 1 hour ago
imho Nikita did a good job and I wish he stayed on.

Twitter is 100% better now than a year ago. For one, I haven't gotten a single bullshit click-farm fake-ass sock-puppet follower in months. Secondly, I see very few low-effort reply guys lately, human or otherwise.

andrewingramabout 1 hour ago
Are you paying? I see an endless stream of AI or bot-like posts in the replies of basically every tweet I see with any traction, but i'm not a paying user so I may have the bad version of the platform.
stelonix44 minutes ago
Same. I just skip verified posts because the ones at the top are LLM replies. Unless I'm missing something, that should be easy to detect. Instead I've got ghost banned for a week+ now, no reason given and no way to appeal. X now is the place if you want to check for yourself the dead internet theory.
everfrustrated40 minutes ago
There's has been a noticeable improvement in bots for me since the new Android app rolled out a few weeks back.

Not exactly sure how that changed anything but I see a lot less bot slop now.

atonse25 minutes ago
That's been my experience too. I left twitter a few years ago, but when I created a new account (only following AI and startups and people MAKING things, and movie and show clip accounts), it's been so awesome to keep track of all the stuff going on.
unsupp0rted30 minutes ago
I'm a supporter of X but even I admit I see non-stop AI bot comments
kypro26 minutes ago
HN is downvoting you for expressing an opinion they don't like / don't agree with. There are other comments here with upvotes that are expressing much lower effort opinions, but they're expressing the right opinion.

I need to quit this place. It's a total echo chamber these days – arguably worse than X because at least when you express an unpopular opinion there people can't just flag and burry your post.

saagarjha13 minutes ago
"I don't see bots on Twitter anymore" "I keep seeing LLM content all the time" How is one of these a "lower effort opinion"?
drstewart19 minutes ago
The reddit crowd has found HN
rvzabout 1 hour ago
In 2022, Twitter / X was supposed to have completely shut down according to many doomsters at the time. It is clear that many in [0], [1] and [2] also would like to ask the same question why Twitter / X still hasn't shut down.

Turns out almost 4 years later, we are going to waiting even longer for the collapse.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33984823

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34214903

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34617964

kristiancabout 1 hour ago
He had the good fortune to cut just as AI was beginning to mean you needed fewer software engineers for the same level of output. And yes, software companies across the industry had accumulated in many instances people whose business was not, and was sometimes orthogonal to, building software.
unsupp0rted29 minutes ago
How is this guy who keeps starting or taking over and fixing wildly successful companies always this lucky?
everfrustrated38 minutes ago
Elon was well on top of what AI was capable of. That sounds less luck and more well played.
outside123428 minutes ago
It has collapsed. It is just bots and racism that have collapsed it, not a technical failure.

It has also collapsed on a business front. There are rumors that it has 1/10th the revenue that it did before.

drstewart15 minutes ago
>It has also collapsed

>There are rumors

Interesting methodology you use to make concrete assertions.

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bigyabaiabout 2 hours ago
> X is, and will remain, the most important communication technology in history.

A little cocky.

gotaabout 1 hour ago
Twitter is indeed the greatest communication techonlogy if you do not count the telegraph, the telephone, the television, radio, almost every single aspect of the internet, etc.

It beats shouting from your window in reach and carrier pigeons in needing less birdfeed, though.

unsupp0rtedabout 1 hour ago
> the telegraph, the telephone, the television

None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions. Seriously: x disintermediates and offers distribution in a way no other communication tech does.

Granted you can always post a blog or whatever, but X's ambition to be the "town square" is a valid one and it does achieve it in notable ways, even if there's still 100 years worth of improvement needed.

dgellowabout 1 hour ago
The town square concept has never made sense. The idea that you have a place where everybody goes and scream at each others insults non stop is completely insane in the real world
mindslightabout 1 hour ago
> None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions

Onlyfans was included under "almost every single aspect of the internet".

bigyabaiabout 1 hour ago
> None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions.

I take it you didn't watch much daytime television? Or YouTube?

X is not designed or moderated in a reputable, accountable or unbiased fashion - and neither was Twitter. X's ambition to be a "town square" is a solipsistic delusion that even Dorsey managed to avoid (despite all the mistakes he did make).

100 years worth of improvement isn't enough, X's centralized design is inherently abusive and many communities have already moved on. As Terry Davis would have put it, X glows.

blokeyabout 1 hour ago
I guess.

If the town itself is an aids-ridden, nazi infested bunch of child-porn-creating yobs.

They can keep that town and its square. I'd nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure.