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BodyCulture•39 minutes ago
This will make it much easier to trap people into installing it without any isolation just to their primary user account or even make it run with admin privileges by default.

With the recent security related events we already see that it seems to be wide spread practice that many operators avoid the hassle of isolating their agents.

It is just an incredible cultural experience to see how quick stupidity gets accepted as a behavioural default.

usef-•24 minutes ago
I agree most don't take sandboxing seriously enough, but I wouldn't be surprised if the built in protections are better than what most typical users are currently doing.

The Linux version uses bubblewrap + seccomp for a "workspace sandbox" automatically, in addition to the auto mode and/or user approval.

A VM would be even better, but you could presumably run this in one if you're already convinced of that ?

WalterGR•about 1 hour ago
From yesterday, with 26 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49264334
manupati•20 minutes ago
Download it a few hours ago. I've been waiting a long time for linux and it is working fine in debian kvm via X11
torh•about 2 hours ago
FYI; This link shows Codex based on your current OS. I get a norwegian landing page with a download link for Windows.
Gareth321•about 1 hour ago
Same. I was quite confused. [This page](https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app) offers the Linux download link if anyone is interested.
pdhborges•about 2 hours ago
For someone who has not tried these desktop apps: what is the the advantage versus cli codex with some MPCs and multiple folders each one with their context files?
Gareth321•about 1 hour ago
The same as an OS with a UI. Discoverability, fewer actions per activity, easier navigation, faster to learn/lower skill floor, etc. Some highlights:

1. Much better multi-agent orchestration. The app supervises many agents, with different project views and built-in git worktrees, so agents can work on isolated copies of the same repo. It's easy to jump between tasks and see changes. I recall OpenAI wrote that CLI was not designed around this style of work.

2. The app combines multiple terminals, file previews, PR-review workflows, SSH connections, an integrated browser, and page annotations. For front-end stuff, Codex can run the app in Codex for mockups/prototypes, then iterate inside the app. IMHO I think this is a much faster, more intuitive flow.

3. For long-running and recurring agent workflows, I think they're much easier to manage in the app. You get automations, review queues, persistent conversation context, future schedules, and auto resume for longer running tasks. E.g. CI failure summaries, issue triage, and release briefs.

You can do some of the above, to some degree, with varying levels of success in the CLI, but I think it's miles ahead in the app.

arminluschin•about 1 hour ago
You get GUI niceties: a nice presentation of the output like inline markdown rendering including tables and images in a nice font. Input supports drag & drop, and I can actually navigate the input field the way I am used to (pointing and clicking, using keyboard shortcuts to jump to beginning of words / sentences). Not sure what the most modern CLIs support, but for me just the ergonomics of a GUI text field alone are superior.
Pavilion2095•about 1 hour ago
It's easier to use for most people. I don't think CLI and GUI programs target the same audience.
logicallee•about 1 hour ago
I'm not ready to try this yet, since after some recent experiences[1] I've decided not to be at the cutting edge of new tools and models for a few weeks or months.

However, from the screenshots and description, I expect that you would have these advantages:

- History. Currently, if you type into the CLI (TUI) your intention and requests are captured in some transcripts, but not in conversational turns. If you want the history of what you typed into the cli/tui you would have to datamine it from transcripts. By contrast, on the screenshots you can see it is a simple conversation that's saved and easy to return to.

- Multiplatform. As per the announcement "Use Codex across ChatGPT, your editor, and the terminal", meaning that you could open the ChatGPT app on your phone and continue to interact with this. While this might not matter to you if you exclusively code while sitting in front of your computer, still, it helps you be able to stay on top of things if you are on mobile.

- Background tasks and autonomous work. It says you can schedule it to do things in the background (issue triage, alert monitoring). At the moment, it would only do this if you've asked either codex or another agent to build a harness for it that does so. (i.e. you could ask Claude to build a harness that calls Codex on some schedule or interval.)

These all seem pretty good and I look forward to starting to use it once it's been more battle-tested.

[1] notably, on the Anthropic side the Opus 5 regressions - I had to downgrade to Opus 4.8 as I found Opus 5 was unreliable. I currently use Opus 4.8 and Codex Sol 5.6.

wltr•about 2 hours ago
If that’s an Electron app, what’s the difference with running it in the browser?
lwansbrough•about 1 hour ago
Access to your computer
JPLeRouzic•about 1 hour ago
That's why I won't download that tool.
tristanj•about 1 hour ago
Access to your computer is the entire point of the app. Codex computer use can script and control any application on your computer.

You can give it any task on your comouter and it can automate it. Such as creating a photo on Photoshop, creating 3D models, editing videos, or browsing any website without scripting.

Gareth321•about 1 hour ago
Honestly, you're missing out. The productivity gains I've had with these tools is unbelievable. I understand the risk though, so if you've got government sensitive data on your computer, or no backups, don't use the "full access" option. Babysit what it does instead.
SillyUsername•about 2 hours ago
None that I can see - I already have it installed as a chrome app on my Mint desktop, and it seems identical.
martin-•about 1 hour ago
Does the Chrome app have access to your local files, like when you're working on a code project?
water-drummer•about 1 hour ago
Why do you need nodejs if you can run javascript in the browser?
villgax•about 2 hours ago
people good w/ linux would not have been holding their breath for companies which keep intelligence for a premium & h0st@ge depending on policy